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Experimenting


Experimenting

Hey there, I seen a couple of these type of lures on here so i decided to make myself one of em. I made the props on this guy cause I didnt have any lol. I also decided to paint them just to be different also. Well he sits eye level in the water so hopefully he works good. I just messed with a punch of stuff on this one and I liked the way it turned out so I was just wondering what everyone else thought of it:teef:. Also gotta give a big thanks to Dieter and Mark on this one, they helped a lot with it:yay:. Thanks for looking, Jacob


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    mark poulson
    Jul 04 2009 09:01 PM
    Looks good. Should be killer when the fish are busting shad. Let us know how it works.
    Look's very good!
    Gee, Jacob ,..... this one turned out to perfection:yes::yes: ! You've said , that you didn't have any props , .......your homemades look so neat , that I've first thought , that you used an original one as a template:yes: ! What material are they , ....aluminium :yeah:? And did you set their pitch to be counter-rotating(would let the lure swim upright at any speed , not lay on its side):yeah: ? Also the painting turned out very nice , just like a topping shad :yes:! nice lure , indeed:yes: , ......greetz:yay:, Dieter
    Hey Dieter, No I dont think I did set the props counter rotating, that could easily be fixed though. I made the props out of copper so I just have to bend them. I just have to bend the them so the rear one bends to the inside right? Well I did some bathtub test and it seems that there is enough ballast weight so the lure doesnt go on its side to bad. I will do some bending though to see what happens tho:yes:. And then for the blade design I just did some searching on the web and I went to Hagens and they had actaull size pictures of prop blades so I used one of those as a stencil. I did make some myself but didnt like how they turned out so I just used the ones from the template, they give the lure a lil bit better look lol. @ Mark, lol hopefully it will get me some wipers this fall when they start to feed on the shad on the surface. That is so much fun catching those fish with topwater, they just explode on the lure! lol then most the time they miss so you try not to get to happy and jerk the lure from them:lol:. I am gonna make some more of these in chartuse, the bass really seem to like that color a lot at my lake, ill let ya know what I get with em tho! @ b75nweav, Thanks very much! I really like all the lures you do, there is just something about them that I love so much. I try to achieve some of the paintjobs you do and I just laugh trying to figure out how you do it:lolhuh: Thanks for all the kind words guys, it means a lot:) Jacob
    Jacob, That is one nice lure. First one!!! Pal you have a future in anything you tackle. I'm impressed and happy for you.
    @ spoopa Now I see , why I was so familiar with your prop's shape , you've made a template after catalog pictures :)! If I understood right about "bending to the inside" to achieve the prop running into opposite directions , .......this is wrong ! You only have to alter the angle of one prop's two blades in relation to the lenghtwise shaft , on which both props are spinning on . A bit difficult to explain from a distance:? : Imagine we are looking at your lure right down the nose tip from direction of the attached fishing line , both props sit like on this picture ! If now the upper front prop blade's right edge points forward and its left edge backward to make up for a little angle offset the straight 90 position related to the shaft ,..........and the bottom blade in a 180 TURNED AROUND SHAFT position is bent in the same manner , the prop would spin with a right turn(viewed from the front) , also called "clockwise" spin . Now if the rears prop's upper blade's right edge points a bit to the rear and the left edge forward (bottom blade 180 TURNED AROUND SHAFT again bent same manner, off course) , that prop would have a left turn , aka "counterclockwise" spin , the short terms for these are "cw" and "ccw" . This way you have achieved a set of counterrotating prop's now , the torque or circular force of each of the props now about equals one another , since working into opposite directions , ........thus the tendency of side-swimming is almost zero . On flat bodied topwaters like yours , that require a keel weight anyway , the counterrotating props might not be absolutely neccessary , as you had already stated , .....the weight would keep the bait upright more ore less(the faster the retrieve , the more laying on the side , as the circular force/torque increases) . But such prop lures , that are lathe-turned and spindle-shaped , lack sideward stability and roll on their sides a lot easier , if the props were NOT counterrotating ,......a keel weight also does not help as much , since it would sit closer to the center shaft most likely , thus cannot provide as much leverage to keep the lure upright . This might propably let the entire lure spin at higher paces and also minor the hook-up rate , if a fish attacks from the wrong side of the lure , since the belly hook would hang sideward of the lure and be covered by the body . Furthermore I have found out , that props of aluminium do not provide quite as much noise as if made of stainless steel sheet , ...guess this is because the latter material is heavier and thus "shoulders" into the water better , .......copper and brass should act the same , as these are still a little heavier than steel . Hope , my explanations are a bit understandable to you:huh: ! good luck:yay: , Dieter
    man Spoopa that turned out awsome, great blades, great shape and the color way to go. jody
    Hey Dieter, I think I got what you said, I messed with the props for about an hour today in the bathtub just turning them different ways. Well I got the blades to spin freely now and the lure goes pretty darn straight. On the next one ill do some different types of blades, and ill had some more ballast weight also. On the nest one of these tho I think i will make it with a cupped face and a prop only on the back. The reason for this is just when I was doing testing I noticed that over half the time the rear prop had trouble spinning. I dont know if this is cause of the prop hitting the hook or because of it just being in the back and not getting water but just air bubbles from the first prop. I really like these lures, they look cool in the water lol. I will experiment some more with them and it I get a good one ill share it with you guys on here. @ Jody, Thanks man! I really liked the green prop bait, it looked mean lol Thanks for the all the help and the kind words, its nice to see what other people think:yay: Thanks, Jacob
    @ spoopa Many muskie guys utilize a piece of shrink tube over rear hook hanger eye , splitring and hook eye to prevent the hook from interfering the prop's spin , also to achieve better hook-ups , as the hook points stand well away from the prop blades tips ;). good luck , Dieter:yay:
    This turned out great. I like the subtle color palette and the eyes you chose. You did a fine job on those props also. bob