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#321 Brent R

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:54 PM

CedarLakeMusky.....posted on page 11 of this thread that he was using the black light and his was curing in about 3 minutes....might want to check with him to find out just how he is using it...

I know the black light is not as strong as the finger nail dryer so you might need to put the bait close to the light...just my guess....like i said ask CedarLakeMusky.......



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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:34 AM

I got my Solarez two days ago and did some testing. I poured a thin layer into an aluminum dish and used the nail dryer to harden it. When it finished i took it out of the dish and it was obviously not clear. It was clear with an almost marble effect of cloudiness. I tried it on a lure and got the same result. I have been putting it in the nail dryer with 30 second intervals until it is hard. I was so excited for this stuff. Need to figure out what I am doing wrong. 



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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:01 AM

I tried it on foil too, with the same results! It is not really clear, but it looks better on lures. I just dont like it on black lures, because the waxy look really stands out more. But bright colors I barely notice the waxy look.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:03 AM

Also, the thinner you put it on the better it looks. If dipping it seems like the longer it hangs, the better it looks

#325 EdL

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 03:35 PM

I have a favor to ask - when you post about Solarez would you also say which specific product you are trying out?  They offer several products and I'm having a hard time figuring out which one everyone is trying. They offer vinyl, poly-ester, clear gloss, etc.  Some of you have said which ones you've tried and what you experienced.  And that's cool.  I can decide if the results are the kind I could use or should avoid.



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Posted 08 February 2013 - 04:08 PM

Ed,

I use the "Dual-cure polyester gloss resin".  Under the Solarez name on the black plastic bottle it says "fast-clear-strong-UV cure", cures time: 3 minutes by sunlight or 30 mintes by MEKP catalyst.

Here's the link:

http://www.solarez.c...snew/gloss.html



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Posted 08 February 2013 - 04:19 PM

im using the same one as mark linked to. I really am pleased overall so far with it. Especially the working time over devcon and even the auto clear i was using.



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Posted 08 February 2013 - 04:23 PM

I dip or brush mine, and don't have any clouding or color dampening issues.



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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:42 AM

Thanks guys for the exact name of the products.  I've read all the threads so far and as my brain cells are becoming more mature I'm remembering less (just ask my wife) and easily get confused.  Guess I'd better get to builiding all the lure I want to try now before they put me away.



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Posted 09 February 2013 - 01:49 PM

I use the 18" GE black light bulb to cure the solarez.  I also use the polyester gloss resin.  I have my drying wheel built inside a box that is insulated with white styrofoam.  I have the styrofoam in there for when I use Etex.  I brush my lures and rotate them a bit before turning on the light.  I have had better luck with a 30 sec on and 1 minute off cycle for 3-4 minutes. I seem to get a glossier finish.  I notice that the nose and the tail of the lure do not cure as fast as the rest of the lure.  I rotate my lures horizontally (I hook a spring to the line tie and a spring to the tail eye) pic below.  The light doesn't hit those spots as well so I hang the lure for awhile from both ends to finish curing.  I might add aluminum foil to the inside of my box to reflect the light better so it will hit all parts of my lure.  It seems like guys are having good luck with dipping solarez so I might have to give that a try also.  The real test will be this summer to see how it holds of to musky/pike teeth.  If it doesn't I will go back to Etex as my topcoat but I will continue to use solarez as a seal coat.  Sure is nice for that, brush it on, cure for 3-4 minutes, sand lightly and its ready for paint.

 

This picture is when I was using a regular light bulb to heat the box when I was using etex.  I re-wired with a black light now.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 04:47 PM

I use the 18" GE black light bulb to cure the solarez.  I also use the polyester gloss resin.  I have my drying wheel built inside a box that is insulated with white styrofoam.  I have the styrofoam in there for when I use Etex.  I brush my lures and rotate them a bit before turning on the light.  I have had better luck with a 30 sec on and 1 minute off cycle for 3-4 minutes. I seem to get a glossier finish.  I notice that the nose and the tail of the lure do not cure as fast as the rest of the lure.  I rotate my lures horizontally (I hook a spring to the line tie and a spring to the tail eye) pic below.  The light doesn't hit those spots as well so I hang the lure for awhile from both ends to finish curing.  I might add aluminum foil to the inside of my box to reflect the light better so it will hit all parts of my lure.  It seems like guys are having good luck with dipping solarez so I might have to give that a try also.  The real test will be this summer to see how it holds of to musky/pike teeth.  If it doesn't I will go back to Etex as my topcoat but I will continue to use solarez as a seal coat.  Sure is nice for that, brush it on, cure for 3-4 minutes, sand lightly and its ready for paint.

 

This picture is when I was using a regular light bulb to heat the box when I was using etex.  I re-wired with a black light now.

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How close to the black light are the baits when you  cure with solarez?????  Are you leaving the lures on the turner when you cure????

 

thanks Brent



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Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:06 PM

How close to the black light are the baits when you  cure with solarez?????  Are you leaving the lures on the turner when you cure????

 

thanks Brent

I leave the lures rotating during the curing process.  They are 5 inches away at the closest point and 10 inches away at the farthest point.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:51 AM

Has anyone had issues with Solarez "orange peeling" createx or any other adverse effects to the drip-and-wait method?  I haven't noticed this yet, but was just curious.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:56 AM

Has anyone had issues with Solarez "orange peeling" createx or any other adverse effects to the drip-and-wait method?  I haven't noticed this yet, but was just curious.

 

Not so far, but it will cause solvent based sharpie colors to run, so I put a coat of clear Createx over them before I dip.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:33 PM

So has anyone tried a brand other than SolarEz?  ...and affordable?



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:05 AM

Well I got mine Friday and finally got to try it tonight, and all I can say is wow! What is the down side? Mine cured in under 3 min in tanning bed, done 10 baits tonight ready to sell tomorrow! This stuff is awsome!

Well I got mine Friday and finally got to try it tonight, and all I can say is wow! What is the down side? Mine cured in under 3 min in tanning bed, done 10 baits tonight ready to sell tomorrow! This stuff is awsome!

Well I got mine Friday and finally got to try it tonight, and all I can say is wow! What is the down side? Mine cured in under 3 min in tanning bed, done 10 baits tonight ready to sell tomorrow! This stuff is awsome!

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:57 AM

So has anyone tried a brand other than SolarEz?  ...and affordable?

 

Not yet, but soon.  Before I got my Solarez, I had contacted another company and asked them specifically about this application.  I told them that I was a hobby lure maker, not a big guy, so I did not expect them to go out of their way.

 

Nevertheless, they must see potential themselves.  They have asked for samples of my lures and they will test several of their UV cure and let me know if they meet the list of requirements I gave them, as well as the UV frequency and strength that performed best.

 

I will be sending the lures off Tuesday.  They want completed, ready to clear coat, lures.  I will have my airbrush up and producing tomorrow.

 

I don't want to name names yet, just in case they cannot find a suitable product at this time, but if it works, I will let you guys know.  In the mean time, I am not seeing any down side to the Solarez.



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Posted 15 February 2013 - 10:43 PM

Well, I got my Solarez today and did alittle testing with it on some scrap PVC.  As was mentioned earlier in this thread, my thinner coats turned out pretty good, but the coverage was not quite what i was looking for. When I used a little thicker coat, I got that waxy sort of milky look which seems pretty apparent on black.

 

I was able to fix this with a little sanding with 1000 grit sandpaper and some finecut rubbing compiund.  The finish also polishes up quite nicely to get the gloss look some are looking for.  Considering the fact that I used an unsanded piece of PVC with a shot of spraypaint on it, I'm pretty happy with the end result.  If you look, you can see the reflection of my lamp in the picture,

 

The question about rubbing compound was posed earlier in the thread, so I thought these results might benefit. The presanding with the 1000 grit definately helped alot because I could see when it was level and smooth before polishing it.

 

I'll try to get a before and after next time.  I wasn't sure if it would work on this one.

 

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:31 AM

Atlasstone,

I only use one dip or brush coat, and let it drip before I cure it, and it never "milks up".  It's probably a thinner coat than you're using.

Maybe you could just use two thin coats and avoid having to polish it out.



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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:56 PM

What little I know about Solarez is from what I have read here. There has been talk about it having a wax in the formula. I'm just wondering if the wax acts as sort of a flux that migrates up through the Solarez to the surface? If so this could mean the wax left at the surface is the culprit for what some have described as a less glossy finish. By polishing the finish Atlasstone could be removing the wax as well as polishing the hardened surface resulting in a much glossier finish. I have no idea if this is indeed what is happening, but it seems possible to me. What do you guys think?

 

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