tailchaser Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I have been using the shaker bladed to make a chatterbait style bait (for personal use i dont want to sell them and get into a lawsuit).. i have found the blades on barlows, janns etc.. with and without the "bubbler" holes.. does anyone know of somewhere that sells smaller ones? i want to make some 1/4 down to 1/8oz baits.. and these blades are just a little much... thanks in advance.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I found with the right head that those blades work with a 1/4oz bait but the 1/8oz, well you and a lot of others are looking for those as well. Try using a size #3 colorado blade, all you need to do is drill 2 small holes for the swivel and you'll be on your way. I know of those that used them for blades and I heard that they work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I think smalljaws solution is the easiest. If you are looking for a lot of blades or a custom size, I can have them cut for you on a laser. Pm me your e-mail and we can discuss this further if you are interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailchaser Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 thanks for the replies.. i have done the colorado blade deal before.. and it works ok... cadman, is there a minimum for you to cut? and what kind of price range am i looking at? i am not looking for alot of them maybe 10 or 20.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 thanks for the replies.. i have done the colorado blade deal before.. and it works ok... cadman, is there a minimum for you to cut? and what kind of price range am i looking at? i am not looking for alot of them maybe 10 or 20.. Tailchaser, I don't want to sound like I'm dissing you or anything because I'm not but normally to get something like that done you need to get a lot more than 20 blades. If anyone can help you cadman is the person to do so but getting blades cut on a laser for just 20 sounds like it could be costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Tailchaser, Smalljaw is correct, although I coude get 20 cut, it would be cost prohibitive. You would need numbers in the 100's starting at about 200. Now the ideal situation would be is if everyone agreed upon one style blade, and then put an order together. That would be more economical. So Smalljaws idea with the Colorado blades seems about the best choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailchaser Posted February 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 thanks guys, that is kind of what i thought.. i was hoping to find someone who already sells them.. i will try the colorado blade idea.. that or take a pair of tin snips to the blades i have.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Maxwell Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Or you can flatten colorado blades with a hammer on a small anvil, then drill the holes and trim the blade down to the standard shaker shape. you can make it as small as you want without too much trouble as long as you have a decent pair of tin snips. I've been making my own since before the blades were available to the public. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil'skeeter Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 I would go in with someone if they want to get Cadman to cut some. The ones I'm looking for are the coffin shaped ones that are about 5/8" wide at the widest point and 3/4" long X .015 thick. Cadman, can you put the holes in them? It would be hard for me to drill that many holes with any consistency. Can you PM me a price on say 400 just to get an idea of the costs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) I would go in with someone if they want to get Cadman to cut some. The ones I'm looking for are the coffin shaped ones that are about 5/8" wide at the widest point and 3/4" long X .015 thick. Cadman, can you put the holes in them? It would be hard for me to drill that many holes with any consistency. Can you PM me a price on say 400 just to get an idea of the costs? PM sent Edited March 26, 2013 by cadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNC Molds N Stuff Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Laser would certainly work, but I think the most cost effective would be a punch press. The upfront cost for a punch die would be a little bit expensive, but then the per unit cost would be dirt cheap. I'ld have to check thickness, but I bet a roll of aluminum flashing would provide enough raw stock for a lifetime supply. The big advantage to laser cut is the ability to make changes quickly and easily. Make a few test, adjust, make a few more... The problem with laser is the high maintenance cost and limited life of the laser tubes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Laser would certainly work, but I think the most cost effective would be a punch press. The upfront cost for a punch die would be a little bit expensive, but then the per unit cost would be dirt cheap. I'ld have to check thickness, but I bet a roll of aluminum flashing would provide enough raw stock for a lifetime supply. The big advantage to laser cut is the ability to make changes quickly and easily. Make a few test, adjust, make a few more... The problem with laser is the high maintenance cost and limited life of the laser tubes. Bob, The ideal process would be a punch press with a stamping die by far. However a stamping die is only beneficial if you are doing 10,000 pieces+. The tooling with a stripper and maybe a 3 or 4 hit die would be several hundred dollars, not including material and run time. Definitely not practical for this application unless you are mass producing. I talked to our laser guy and on .015 material it is the only feasible solution. Even a turret press is not practical on such thin material as you would need special tools to punch the holes and a parting tool with the correct die clearances to punch the.015 without pulling the material or slugs from the material. Also not enough material to hold the part in place when the turret is punching and material too thin to be held in the turrets clamps. As the turret would move, the sheet would move to quickly causing it to shift and possibly get caught on the rollers of the bed, unless the bed has brushes under the turret head,and ripping the sheet. Also as the turret punches, it will leave a skeleton, which has a tendency to curl up on really thin material, causing failure again. Edited March 26, 2013 by cadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
