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I just bought a cheap toaster oven to use for painting my jigheads with powder paint. I've been using a cig lighter to heat the heads but its far too inconsistent and I'm getting bubbling and burning.

Can someone give me a primer on using the toaster oven? The oven I bought does not have a thermostat. It has four settings .... toast, bake, broil, and warm. After testing, it appears the bake is around 400* and the toast and broil are hotter than that. I'm still not sure what temp that " warm " is . I think I'm gonna have problems with temps, is that true ?

When you use a toaster oven, do you take one jighead out of the oven at a time ? Then close the door, dip that jig, and then go back for another. Or do you take out the entire grill with the jigheads hanging from it ?

Thanks in advance.

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Two bits. This is what I do, and my personal opinion(MPO). First of all I bake all my painted jigs at 325-350 degrees for 15-20 minutes. If you don't know what the temp of your oven is, get a oven thermomter and check it, once you find where that is on your dial on your toaster oven make a note of it or mark it. There are guys that preheat their jigs, and then take them out one at a time, and dip them in the powder paint. Again this is MPO but, this means you have to rack them all, then preheat them, then take them out and dip them in the paint, then re-rack them, then bake them. Hopefully by this time the jigs haven't cooled in the process. Tooooooooo much for me. This is what I do. Get all your jigs ready for painting. Get a heat gun, and heat each jig one at a time, count down the time in seconds for the jig size. Swish it in the powder, then you can hang the hot jig on your baking rack, or drop them in a bowl of water, and hang them later. Once you're done, preheat your oven, to the desired temp, put the rack with all your jigs, and bake away. Once the timer dings, take them out of the oven and let cool. That's it folks..........

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Same here. I use propane to preheat and a regular kitchen oven (in the shop not the kitchen) to bake and cure. The thermometer is important to determine temperature as each color has a different setting to cure at. Cadman gave you all the steps to do the job, the tools are your preference. You must have one tough thumb using a cigarette lighter - ouch! Good luck on your choices.

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Two Bits

There’s been a lot of good info previously posted on ovens – not sure how much has been lost with server crash. Might want to try a word search.

The oven I bought does not have a thermostat. It has four settings .... toast, bake, broil, and warm” – could be a major problem, you need some way of controlling your oven temperature. And you definitely need some kind of temperature measuring device.

When you use a toaster oven, do you take one jighead out of the oven at a time? Then close the door, dip that jig, and then go back for another.” - if you are not doing a lot, that’s fine.

I prefer to use a hot air gun (better temperature control and a must for multiple colors) – heat the jig, apply the paint, and then hang the jig (not hanging the jig twice). Its harder to handle a pre heated jig from the oven (and don’t drop a hot jig on the carpet).

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All the above info is all it takes to get quality powder painted jigs. And yes I did forget to mention, like LedHead said. A heat gun (that's what I use) will allow me to put multiple colors on my jig. The max number of colors I've put on one jig is 5, this includes a glitter coat. One last thing. I use white as a base coat for all my bright colors (ie. yellow chart. flo-orange etc.) The white makes these colors brighter and more intense.

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We use the toaster oven to preheat the jigs as well. However, we do not hang them on the rack to preheat. Takes too much time. We simply put them in a pan and stick them in the toaster oven. The oven shouldn't be hot enough to melt the jigs, but I would not do it this way for very small jigs as they don't take much heat to melt them. Then using a pair of hemostats pick them out one at a time to dip in the fluid bed. I also use a heat gun after I dip each one to just touch it up again and then I put them in a bowl of water. When I am all done painting I rack them in the toaster oven to cure. Like the people above stated. Make sure you know your oven temp or you may end up ruining some jigs.

Benjamin

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Im no expert but i use a toaster also.

Its about 8 years old so how well it regulates temperature now is anyones guess.My wife wouldnt let me bring the stove into the shop.

I use a butane torch for heating,hang em and when i got enough in the oven,i turn it on 350 for when ever.

No problems from my end.

I remember the first few batches i did with my kids when we were learning powder paint and didnt know how long to dip em.

I now a have about a dozen little dots on the bottom of the stove.

Told the wife it gives the stove character.

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All the above info is all it takes to get quality powder painted jigs. And yes I did forget to mention, like LedHead said. A heat gun (that's what I use) will allow me to put multiple colors on my jig. The max number of colors I've put on one jig is 5, this includes a glitter coat. One last thing. I use white as a base coat for all my bright colors (ie. yellow chart. flo-orange etc.) The white makes these colors brighter and more intense.

How do you get 5 colors on one jig with powder paint??????

I think i have an idea.

Heat jig,sprinkle a little of one color.Heat jig,do another color??????????

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Yankes_Jigger,

What we do for 3 or more colors it to dip it in he base color first and then the second color for the part of the jig. Then we hold it over the heat for a couple of seconds and then using a paint brush, dip the brush into the powder paint and lightly tap the brush to sprinkle on the other colors. Run the jig over the heat gun when needed.

Benjamin

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My technique is pretty much the same as dayooper and cadman. This is from some text for a tutorial:

“Preparation is key; lay out the paints (gently shaken) with individual brushes on a pane of glass, this is for easier clean up and paint recovery.

Place a jig in small vise grips heat up over a hot gun (not full cure temp but hot enough for paint to stick – HINT) and add colors (re-heating the jig in between colors) then hang in the oven. When you reheat - keep an eye on the applied paint to make sure you are not getting the jig too hot. You need enough heat for the paint to adhere to the heated jig – the cure comes after.

The paint is applied by holding a loosely loaded brush over the heated jig and tapping the brush so the paint gently falls off over the jig. Apply paint on the jig’s four axis; 90° and 370° (sides), then 180° (bottom) or 360° (top).

It’s surprising how much control you get – the technique is very similar to Hopi or Tibetan sand painting. With a vice and small heat gun you can use stencils (eyes, gills, lateral lines…) with this style – very time consuming and you can do the same thing with Sharpies.

With practice, it’s pretty quick, not as fast as a fluid bath but fast enough. For one color it’s hard to beat the fluid bath but when you make your own jig why do you want to paint one color? This is a great technique because you do all the colors at once (don’t have to wait for a color to cure before you add another one) – one time handling – cuts down on handling time. Clean up is a breeze – do each color over a corner of the glass pane, keeping the paint separate. Then use a razor to collect the paint back into its container. For the brushes – take them outside and blow real hard on them. Use the glass/razor to mix colors, like an artist palette.”

Don’t think base coat is necessary – makes the paint to thick on the jig and that can get into runs/drips (acetone works great on removing boo boos). Unless, like Ted mentioned previously, you want to really bring out your bright – fluorescent colors. Have never really compared a base white VS new bright lead. Don’t like white, for me, it starts messing with the cure times. Really like Columbia Coatings illusion kit – awesome over a diamond dust black….

Had some pics in the Gallery – but I think they are gone now.

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Yeah, I hear you LedHead. I've asked around, and white is the biggest pain in the a_s for me also. I'm looking at having a white custom made powder. But it's expensive. Believe me I've tried many chemical coatings companies on white, and they all are the same. When I pour, my lead heads are almost like silver chrome, they're so shiny. I've tried ylw. chart. and other bright colors over raw lead, and I have to dip too many times, and even then I don't get it as bright as with the white. I will tell you one thing with the bright jigs, you get some awesome colors using inks. But then you have to clear coat to seal in the color. I usually do this only on request, and when I use 5 colors. Devcon works for me.........Ted

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LedHed, What is CC super high gloss clear may I ask? You are right about all the other colors and inks. I only do this to play around, and see what color combinations I come up with. Some are pretty interesting, and some I couldn't give away. You're right, I'm sure the fish don't care, how much time I put in this. Also definitely Devcon for the 3D eyes. Thanks

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Sorry Ted – that’s Columbia Coatings - super high gloss clear.

and some I couldn't give away” – call those donors.

If the fish had the wallet – everything would be black, white, and gray…

The playing around, coming up with a color combo, pouring a custom jig that no one has is awesome and sometimes the end results are too.

TU Hint; when practicing paint techniques - don’t use jigs poured with premium hooks. If you don’t like the end result it’s easier to give them away and you aren’t wasting time cleaning them to start over.

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