Thanks LedHed. My problem with most of the saltwater hooks is that they are too large. Last year, after surf fishing in Mexico for a few days and catching nothing, I went to 3 local fish markets to see what the gillnetters were bringing in...all small (12-14") fish of about 8 species. My hooks were all too big. I'm going to try making some banana jigs with my Lil Mac molds (hooks 1/0,2/0,3/0). I can get tinned seaguard hooks for these but I will have to add extra weight for casting.