fabiopike

sorry but, due to your unbelievable bait, I don't think anything else than ... "I have to be more patient ...I have to be more patient ... I have to be more patient... "... kidding a part, I am seriously thinking that I must change shape to go deeper (and to stay there). maybe something with a more flat head... maybe a solefish??? sorry for my english again, thank you, fabio

Thanks Guys for all the interesting replies. R.man, I normally troll with deep diver crankbaits quite succesfully, expecially with monstershads from Bagley, Grandmas; but also with spinnerbaits and jigs too. The fact is that I am conviced that I CAN make a glider able to work at this depth, and I will do it. Too much times trolling isn't enough to trigger a pike, casting a jerkbait where nobody else do it, could put the smile on my face in more than one occasion. But it harder than it seems in the beginning. I am weightin' my gliders in two points, close to the head, and to the tail. I tried various sinking style and rate of sinking: head first, tail first, orizontal fall, and whatever was possible to do with my tools. It seems to me that the one that is "close" to work correctly, is the one that sinks a bit head-first. But it is the one that also requires a fast retrive (obviously), and for my experience, the slower you work a glider the more pikes bite it. All I have to do, (easy eh?!) is to find a weighting balance, that allows me to work the bait as slower as I can, with all the lead I could put it in. At this point I think that the point of wiew of Ckarren is correct. It is also a big question of shape. I will try with a round nose, also if I like very much the "ammabama" shape that I am using, and also if I never built a round nose so... teach meeee! sorry for my bad english and thank you all, fabio southernpiker

Hi guys, first time for me on this very intresting forum, linked to me by Riverman, I am a fanatic pike hunter from Italy, the extremely southern frontier of the european pike fishing. that's my first question: While I know jerkbaits are best used mainly on lakes, and in quite shallow waters , I have the need to fish'em deep (18/22 ft) and in a moderate current, near deep holes, deep weed lines, and drop offs. I have tried different shapes, and different weighting distributions, but at the moment none of my gliders do what I want. They all tend to "came up" after a couple of turns of the handle. The Manta jerkbait from Riverrun, (probably due to the angle of the head-cut and for the back lip), is the only one that seems to "keep the Bottom" more than others. Do you have any suggestion about building something that will fit this situation? thank in advance fabio