Hey, none of us guys in East Tennessee throw modified Mann's 30+ cranks...nope never happens...it's all just a myth. We never deep crank, we never file lips and we never weight with lead. This is all just total fabrication and hearsay. Yeah, right! Using a file properly is an art. Also, don't use a low gear ratio reel or a long crankin' rod. By the way, the best crankin' reel ever was discontinued about a year ago. !00 foot cast with a 30+...believe it. Just because you have never done it or seen it done doesn't mean it isn't true. Deep crankin' works....both Rick Clunn and Mark Davis got modified 30+ cranks from Ricky Shepherd...that's why they were 1st and 3rd in the 2001 Megabucks tournament. There are just as many, if not more great deep crankers in East Tennessee as N. Carolina. Hey, do people really fish deep cranks straight out of the package?