Thanks for the info TJ!! It is the same material as the large BBZ1. I have not tried etex or DN. I have tried in the past to order DN from the ad on the top of the site but I can not send the e-mail? I would really like to try it. I know there is a lot of info on etex but where do you get it? Thanks for your help. I will get you the paint info soon. Thanks again!!