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  1. @ porkmeatballs I have only made a handful of swimbaits so far , always tried to let them sink at a horizontal level , but for no other reason but a natural appearance . But I figure out , that a slightly head-down sinking level might enhance a deeper running of the bait , .....though I'm not sure about that . All I know is , that down the single segments from front to rear the ballast per each segment should decrease , meaning that most ballast should sit in the first section , the second heaviest load in the second section and just a little or possibly no ballast in the third and especially the following sections down the rear . To let a swimbait do it's snaking motions , vortices down the flanks are generated by the first and biggest section , these vortices flowing down the flanks of the bait cause the second , third and following section to move sidewards to achieve the typical snaking action ,.......so if these rear sections would become too heavy due to added ballast , the vortices would come to lack sufficient power to move those heavier sections and the bait won't work well anymore . This is why the first section in front is usually the biggest and most voluminous section of the bait , ....it is the "engine" of the entire bait , so to speak , ......if any rear sections would be made as big and voluminous , the bait won't perform, ........well , apart from a two-section bait ! But I won't call such a typical swimbait , but some sort of a two-section glidebait , as it won't "snake" within, but come back in a wave pattern at constant pull or break out sideward on initial jerks . Greetings , Dieter
  2. To me , it's the nature of the business , that such lures rise to the surface on retrieve more or less , .....they are just not suited to fish depths beyond 10 feet . To keep them that deep at all, one must place more weight , possibly into the front and second section only(overweighting rear sections kills their snaking action) to let them sink at a rate of about one foot/second , ...second option is , in conjunction with more ballast , to place a more or less downward pointing diving bill underneath the chin . Also one should pause the retrieve now and then to allow the bait to drop back to maintain it's working depth. Good luck , Dieter
  3. I don't mean to be bragging , ...but you may browse through my gallery , through the years I have made quite a few versions of different lathe turned lures , ....not the most prettiest lures though , but many variations . http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/gallery/member/17895-diemai/ You might also check out this list-up of different collector's sites , .....a lot of vintage lure model were lathe-turned , ....you'd surely find some inspiration in there : http://www.thehardbaitdatabase.com/Collector_s_Links.html Good Luck , Dieter
  4. @ pescabaits The two lures on top do not work , because the diving planes are too small compared to the body diameter and volume . Compared to the common added crankbait lips of metal and plastic mounted below the chin of a lurebody , these integrated diving vanes already do provide somewhat less and softer action to a lure , ...simply because they cannot generate so much leverage around the tow eye . And on these two lures the diving planes are so small and do not even pass over the belly diameter of the the rest of the lure body , so even less leverage can be generated , .......a diving plane should always protrude over the belly diameter , ..the more it does , the more leverage and the more action can be generated , ...to an extend , that the lure can even overturn and blow out , if either the diving lip is too long or the tow eye placed too high . The lower lure would certainlky come up with some kinda action , as the lip is longer and does protrude over the body diameter , .......but you have made the thickest body portion right behind the lip , .....this means , that the lure has it's greatest buoyancy in front , now the lip might get to sit too high and not shoulder into the water perfectly . You might try to add some ballast to the front body to overcome this issue , but I have learned , that any kind of belly ballast to such lures with integrated diving planes dampens their wiggling action more or less , ......simply because these lips do not provide as much leverage and do have difficulties with moving around added ballast . You must try to place the ballast deep into the belly right on the lengthwise center axis , right in the center of gravity , ......it should act neutral there and not affect the wiggle , but allow the front portion to hang deeper . Such lures and also banana lures with integrated diving vanes must have their greatest buoyancy in the center of body or slighly behind , ...causing them to float up horizontal or slighly head down , ...this way the diving vane shoulders nicely into the water and they should perform flawless . A shorter , egg shaped body of this type of lure would swim more irregular with a kinda "drunken" hunting action , but still wiggle within ,......a more elongated body would swim more stable , wiggle more regular and won't hunt as much ,....simply because a longer body has more guidance in the water , ......but remember , it is essential to let the diving plane protrude over the belly ! Good luck , Dieter
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    Single Hook Spoonplugs

    Sorry , I do not have any scales , ...I'd estimate them at maybe 25 grams for the larger one and 17 grams for the smaller lure , ....but it really depends on which sheet thicknesses one would use . Thanks a lot for chiming in , .......greetings , Dieter
  6. @ Jwbright I love making lureblanks on my lathe , ...maybe , it's because I do not have a bandsaw ??? Most likely I'm making versions of vintage lure models , for example the "Rush Tango Minnow" , but also "Pikie" style lures , many other proven catchers of yesteryear can be made on a lathe , too ! Also I 've been into experiments with a few versions of typical striper bass lures , as already mentioned in another post above , ......many of these are perfectly suited for northern pike over here in Europe . Is there anything in particular , that you'd like to know about turning down timber lures ? Greetings , Dieter
  7. @ pescabaits Are you that Dutch fellow angler , that had just commented on that particular YouTube clip above ? Just wrote a reply there advising you to join in here and put up some pics and describtions of your faulty lures , .......kinda funny , that you are already here , .......welcome to TU ! So well, ......please do , as Dave had told you , ....we need pictures to determine about your problems , ....most likely it would be possible to help someone out ! One thing I can already tell you , ......if your lure should be of this style sporting an integrated diving vane , any ballast would most likely do harm actionwise , ...such lures can't easily handle ballast like lures with their diving lips mounted somewhere below their chins . Also if you use material , that is too buoyant for a lure , that is too large and voluminous , it may not dive easily , as it's likely to pop back to the surface , .....but otherwise , as a rule of thumb , .......more buoyant materials do provide an easier to achieve wiggle compared to denser materials , ......but also materials must be matched to lure size and volume somehow . BUT these are just a few aspects about lure dynamics to take into consideration , ....there are a some more , but impossible to figure out without any pictures an descriptions . Greetz , Dieter
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    Copy/paste

    So well , ......looks like surfing TU requires a change of the browser to use the site's full potential , ...it had troubled me enough , before I've figured out ! Good luck , Dieter
  9. diemai

    Redhorse Sucker

    Yeah , ...someone on a German forum watching my own lure vids pointed out the trick to me a while ago , ..he said , that the 25% slo-mo would be really useful to observe a displayed lure action perfectly , ....and he's darn right ! Greetz , Dieter
  10. @ aulrich To utilize that "GrandMa" shape as a glider/stickbait I would tend to turn it upside down , .......dunno exactly why , but in that given configuration I have concerns about good function . If the back turns to belly , your main belly ballast in front would come to sit a bit deeper to stabilize the lure's upright level resulting into a better gliding performance , also you'd render the more buoyant body portion upward also providing a tendency to the lure not to cant that much on each jerk , thus better transforming the momentum into a gliding motion . Greetings , Dieter
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    Copy/paste

    Had issues as well using Internet Explorer browser , providing links in my posts on TU would not work either , .....switched over to Telekom browser(my providing company) , no such issues anymore now , all fine ! So you might try a different browser as well ? Good luck , Dieter
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    Single Hook Spoonplugs

    Thanks , Ben , can't wait to try them on our pike, perch , zander and trout , ...local lure fishing closing time would be finally through May 1st , ...but weather is most crappy , coldest springtime in years ! Greetz , Dieter
  13. diemai

    Redhorse Sucker

    I really like the action of your lure , the slow-mo shows it all , .......but no need to take the effort of making slow-mo lure action videos , as with utilizing the YouTube settings(click the on small gear wheel bottom right below video screen)one can slow down any YouTube video down to 25% of it's original frames . Greetings , Dieter
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    Single Hook Spoonplugs

    Hi folks , A while ago I had posted some Spoonplugs in here , rather unfamilar lures to me,......now I've made a few more(not shown) , ....but amongst these two versions sporting a single hook . My goal of design was not creating weedless lures , but rather reduce the possibilities of bottom snagging of these sinking and deep running sheet metal lures . Since I was aware that the large single hook pointing upward might change the balance of the lure and cause it to flip over to blow out , I still assembled belly hook hangers , just to be able to clip in a little sinker to regain the balance of the lure . But during first tub tests I've found , that such a sinker might be obsolete , since bending the diving lip a tad more downward might be enough to balance the Spoonplug not to turn over anymore . Also the attached sinker slows down the wiggle a little bit, .....but yet would improve the casting performance and would cause the lure to run deeper . The snugly fitting rivets to fix the VMC single hooks are homemade from round brass stock , just filed down to requested diameter rotating in the chuck of my lathe, ......came much easier and faster than I had expected . Thanks a lot for your interest , ...greetings , Dieter
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    Single Hook Spoonplugs

    Please check describtion at second picture .
  16. diemai

    Redhorse Sucker

    Something special about the general shape of this bait ,.....I like it ! Greetz , Dieter
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    My First Spoonplugs

    Hi , Gino , Sorry for belated reply , .....just dropped by at work last night , so now I'm typing on my computer at home . Thanks a lot for further info on spoonplugs and spoonplugging , ....I really wonder , why this type of lure had never made it's way across the Great Pond back in the day and remained absolutely unknown in Germany , if not in entire Europe ? Anyway ,....I intend to try these lures for casting only , I have access to some fairly deep swims , where I can reach depths of 20 to 45 feet even when casting from the bank . Also I wonder , whether the spoonplugs would be suitable to be thrown into the strong tidal currents of Germany's second largest river , the "Elbe" around the city of Hamburg . Hard to tell, how deep the river is , I suppose , upstream of Hamburg it would be around 15 to 20 feet on average , .....currently I'm working on two prototype spoonplugs sporting riveted single hooks with their points protruding upward over the rear of the lure , just to avoid too much snagging . Since I'm aware , that this might chance the balance of the spoonplug to my disadvantage , I still kept the belly hook hanger , just to be able to attach just a little sinker there , just in case . Can't wait for the start of the lure fishing season at May 1st over here to finally try my spoonplug creations in the outdoors , ....thanks a lot for chiming in ,...best greetings , Dieter
  18. Thanks , Mark , ...but so far it remained the only one of this type , always too many new ideas on my mind . Greetings , Dieter
  19. Years ago I had used magnetic sheet to assist in fixing hookshanks against a lurebody . I bought this about 5" x 3" sheet in a local hardware store , wasn't too expensive . The foil is about 1,5 millimetres thick and has an adhesive backing , just like duct tape . One can cut it to size with strong scissors or snips . Glued it into the lure blank with a drop of epoxy and painted and topcoated it over finally , it would not lose it's function due to the paint coats . Here is a crude video of the lure blank showing the magnet sheet pieces embedded into pouches cut into the back od the lure at 0:30 , ....sorry for inconvinience , but somehow that video had lost quite a few frames , yet the subject is still visible . Greetings , Dieter
  20. @ clemmy Thanks a lot for chiming in with all of that valuable info , ....and also thanks for linking that video , I've also checked other videos on that particular channel , too, ...some great info about spoonplugging containing in different clips there . OK , nowadays in the days of sonar and GPS that spoonplug might have lost it's purpose as an aid for bottom structure mapping , but to me it surely remains a different kind of lure to try in our heavily pressured local waters . As said before , these spoonplugs never made their way across the Great Pond , and I'm pretty much sure , that I could use them for my own fishing with some success . Even harder to await the end of the local lure fishing closing time May 1st now , .........greetings , Dieter
  21. Thanks a lot for your kind words , folks , .....I really can't wait to try these in the outdoors as from May 1st on . Some more versions on my mind , at first a spoonplug with multiple line attachement options , just to see , which effect such would have on the lure's action . To achieve this , I would just drill some more holes in line to be able to switch the attachement duolock snap up or down , ...that would be the easiest way . Another version would be a spoonplug rigged with a rigid large single hook , just to find out ,whether this way one could avoid too many bottom snags . Also I wonder , whether the heavier versions of the spoonplug would work in heavy river currents , ......lots of things to explore for me . Dave , the inventor of this spoon , Mr. Elwood L. "Buck" Perry , was a teacher for physics and maths by the time he designed this lure , ...so I'm pretty much sure , that there ought to be an important purpose for these little fins , ......I reckon , that it would be to push the lure back to an upright position , as it falls to one side , ....just what the body buoyancy does on a timber crankbait ? Ben , .....hahaha , Mark used to call me "Metal Meister" as well , ...I'm just into metal lures for more than 25 years now , .......and , .... Dave ,..the good old days of 1970's Glamrock , ....."Metal Guru" , ....really liked those bands back in the day being a young teenager , still in school , .....must have been in another, previous life ! Fishon , ......never saw any other than obviously Buck's original spoonplugs on US-Ebay , there are quite a few offerings , though . Only wanted to buy one to make my own version , I do not collect lures , at least not in the sense of the meaning . The spoonplug seems to be unknown over here in Germany , never read about it anywhere . There has been a similar lure(well , ....not that similar by shape , but by material and probably by action) , put out by the DAM(Deutsche Angelgeräte Manufaktur , in English "German fishing tackle manufactury)around 1960 or 1961 . I have a 1961 DAM catalog and it is stated "NEW" in there , but I really do not know , how long it was sold in it's four different versions between 4cms and 7cms length , on rare occassions one may find them on Ebay or on fleamarkets . Used to have one from a fleamarket , ...sold it on Ebay with 800% profit ! If you're interested , by 8:30 of this video you can see this lure , named "Banana Spoon" in that catalog , ...I could not find any other picture in the web . Greetings , Dieter
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    My First Spoonplugs

    Please check describtion at second spoonplug picture ! Thank you !
  23. diemai

    My First Spoonplugs

    I had these lures on my mind for two and a half years now , finally I gave it a shot and they seem to work well , did a blank test in the bath tub two days ago , by now I've finished the blanks by polishing , annealing and applying stick-on eyes and reflective foil . More info in this old thread of mine : http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/topic/27134-buck-perry-spoonplug-question/ A video also showing underwater sequences of the blank swim test in my bath tub is available on YouTube : I like to reduce video speed to 25% , this way I can thoroughly observe the lure'smotion in SloMo . Greetings , Dieter
  24. Hi , folks , OK , this thread of mine is well over 2 years old , also I've been absent for a while on Best greetings , Dieter
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