fishnart
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Ok guys, I've cleared a bunch more baits and this is the bomb....will never use anything else. I'm hoping that it holds up when its in a hot boat....can't imagine it wouldn't. If you haven't tried this yet, you have too. And I noticed the same thing as someone else above, this stuff is clear, to me it almost magnifies you colors.
When I first posted I talked about how it runs pretty good and you'd need a turner for best results. This is what I have found since then. I mix it and let it sit for about 20 min. By this time most of the bubbles will have risen to the top and you can use a heat source to get rid of them. The cool thing is that it gets thicker and it barely starts to set. You still have plenty of working time, I did 20 baits, but its not quite as runny so you don't have to drive yourself crazy turning it, for those of us that do this manually hahaha.
Now also I think this is important....I put a pretty heavy coat on first to make sure the baits covered well, then I take my brush and brush off the excess, leaving a thin coat. This also keeps it from running and dripping so much. This will leave you a thin coat which might be ok for a lot of baits. But its very easy to add a second coat and I did this the next day when the first coat is barely tacky.
Yeah it takes a few days to cure but who cares haahaha I did 12 baits, put it down and went to pick my kids up at school, came home and did the next 8.
I think waiting the 20 min, or longer, to start is key. One pour I didn't wait as long and I did have to battle more bubbles, but they are tiny and I didn't get rid of all of them. Next time I think I'll try letting it sit 10 min, getting rid of the bubbles and waiting another 10 to make sure I get most of them if not all......
If anyone has any questions feel free to ask on here or email me at fishnart24@yahoo.
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Yeah, its some good stuff, pretty stoked Djosheph
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Oh beautiful..thanks sir
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Thanks Dale
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what do you guys think of this, using sanding sealer to prep my baits and then I'd planned on using a spray primer before painting?
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Ok I'm gonna add to my review as I played with it some more today. The baits I epoxied yesterday were still tacky today, just a little though. What I tried today is I put a second coat on a couple while the first coat is slightly tacky, I think this helped the running so some degree. I also mixed a batch and waited for about 15 to 20 min before applying it. It was slightly thicker and I feel didn't run as much..
So the what I've observed:
it would be best with a turner but you can manage if you have time
It goes on thin so for some baits you might have to apply multiple coats, but thin might be good for some baits.
It has a long working time so you can do many baits, the down side is it takes about 2 whole days for it to cure.
I saw many small bubbles in the cup but they seemed to disappear as you spread the epoxy on the bait, I saw hardly any bubbles in the five baits I've done, and when there were they were very small. It seems that heat will take care of them.
this stuff is CLEAR and really brings out the colors on the bait.
I really think it helped to let it sit for a while before starting to use it
So...I really think you should try this stuff. I've only used Devcon so I don't know how it compares to some of the other stuff you guys use. But compared to Devcon, this stuff is a dream to me. Not sure I'll use Devcon again
What remains to be seen is how it stands up over time, any turning yellow or pink over time and if you don't mix it proportionally, will it stay tacky like Devcon.
I will let you know how these baits turn out
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Jonister, did you have any issues with bubbles and did you use a turner?
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One thing I'm going to try is to mix a batch and let it sit for a while to see if this helps with not having to turn it so often
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I'm trying out right now also, doing a little more testing before I make a video. Preliminarily I like it. There is a long working time, I haven't tested it yet but its very slow curing compared to Devcon which is what I'm used too. You'd be able to do a lot of baits. If you don't have a turner for your baits, like me, you will have to plan on being available to turn your baits often. It seems thin so multiple coats would be ok and maybe for some baits, a must. The jury is still out on bubbles, there weren't many when I mixed it and they SEEMED to burst with heat much like Devcon. I used it on some small baits so I plan to try it on some bigger baits. Again kind of a pain for me because I have to be around to keep turning them as I hang my baits. I did try it on a rattle trap bait and it didn't cure evenly, had ripples on the sides, I'm sure from not being turned. It did cure very clear. So on to more testing and I'll be back. I do think its worth you guys at least getting the small kit to try it out. Only time will tell about it remaining clear...fingers crossed
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Thanks for all of that information Ben, I am eventually gonna try this stuff and will use this info when I do. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us
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Ben, I saw the posts and I appreciate you guiding me to it. Stupid question... I looked at the pic and are those washers being used with the screws and do you have to use the lexan? Thank you
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This is really good info and I plan on trying it. If I want to brush it on, any drawbacks
This is great info and I plan on trying it. Is there any negatives to this stuff? Brushing it on works ok? And Rayburnguy, I did a search on tapping the can and it say negative results?? Do you have any other ideas of what to search, I played around with different wording and couldn't find anything. Thanks
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Hey Dave, I'd be willing to try it and send you a video for sure, what do I do next?
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Hey fishon son, you still looking for this pattern, I think I can pull it off? Also, do you have the baits or you need them also?
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Well, I've always used a medicine dropper to add either LT or alcohol to my mix. The contamination came from having a cup of LT to clean my brushes after each use. Once I was done for the day, I'd pour that LT back in the can. Now, the next pour I'd use a cup from that can to mix with the epoxy. One small cup for mixing and one small cup for cleaning brushes, but they each came from the same can. Does this make sense?? The pink thing is very weird, its not every bait, not even baits from the same batch. Seems like one bait out of many. One thing I'm not sure about is which baits were done with LT and which ones with alcohol because I don't remember exactly when I made the switch. Does that make sense? Because its happened so gradually and after such a period of time, I don't remember that some of the baits were done with the alcohol??? Also, another interesting fact is I used to use Devcon brand. I had found some 30 min epoxy, same bottles etc at a hobby store but it wasn't Devcon. Acted the same and everything. I'm wondering if MAYBE he has something to do with this off brand??? I've tried to think of everything??
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That's interesting that you say that about contaminating the Lthinner, I thought about that. Well I don't use that any more to thin, only the alcohol. So we'll see?? thanks for your input
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Sending healing powers to you Nathan
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Same as BobP
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cm...its after months that it turns pink. I don't know anything about the Locktite brand, I don't think I've heard of anyone else using it?? Yeah the Devcon you can use denatured alcohol, just a couple of drops, to thin it, it goes on easier and you can work with it just a tad bit longer.
And Jrammit...nah I'm using the clear plastic mixing cups
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Hey Bob P, nah...I'm not doing anything different at all. I used to mix lacquer thinner in my epoxy to thin it, only a couple drops but since learned about alcohol and now use that. This is my process: I put a little lacquer thinner in a cup and a little alcohol in a cup. I mix my epoxy and add a couple drops of the alcohol to thin and apply. I then use the LThinner to clean my brush and my used cups out for next pour....cause I'm nutty and like to recycle my stuff to save two cents lollol. When I'm done I pour the left over Lthinner back into the can for next time and good to go. I had thought, and asked opinions on here, that maybe the Lthinner caused it to turn pink...maybe a certain brand???? or something. That's the only thing I can think of but no one on here had heard of that happening so....here I am with no clue as to why. But its dang frustrating...based on above do you have any thoughts? Thanks
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I'm sorry, I paint baits but have never heard of that pattern, spawn? Can you show me a pic
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A ton of useful info here guys, thanks to all that have posted. I too have different issues lately to the point where I'm ready to give it up. I ve been having so many troubles that I m ready to stop painting baits for other people. Too much stress in the epoxy phase. And with this crap turning pink on me, I have my first bait coming back due to this. A handful of my own are turning pink and this sucks to have this happen to a nice paint job...OMG so upsetting. I will hang on a little while longer
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I'm gonna have to try this, a lot of my baits are turning pink...pisses me off
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Yeah Bob P, I don't use it any more. That's what I used to use, now its the alcohol...thanks for your input
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Yeah I'm only comparing it to Devcon...