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Mike, your kind of a sensitive guy, maybe I should take your advice and get an attorney to become that millionaire. Man, everyone on this forum lately has been taking everything too serious and to heart. I was just trying to spark concern and induce conversation about the topic. Like I said, it was no one fix to the problem but would help…. You talked about a child receiving IV solutions or blood from the plastic bags and tubes that contain phthalates. The difference is the IV bags and tubes are not stored outside, submerged in water, and exposed to the elements. Also there is a reason the products has expiration dates on them and are not to be used after; this is just not for the solution inside but the container as well. The same thing goes for plastic water bottles, which are 100% safe if stored properly. The same water and water bottle left in a car while exposed to the sun and its rays has been proven to cause cancer in mice and breast cancer in women, thanks to the breakdown of the plastic in the water after a period of time. This can be the same thing why it’s not wise to heat plastic cup and containers in the microwave and to use glass as well as ceramic too. I do agree with you when you say it’s important to recycle and reuse, also not to leave plastic behind in the water. You also talk about products and materials not existing or cost efficient because none of the “big boys” have it. Just because they don’t have it doesn’t mean it’s not out there......

Got a pic or diagram?

I agree with you both when it comes to recycling the baits and don't leave them behindi if it can be helped. But some people suffer from ignorance and stupidity and that's hard to fix

They are too large and yes I've tried all three sizes small, medium, and large. Also they are a pain in the but to put in. They "needle size" is a one size fits everything and easier to hide an attach to soft plastics.

Yea, my bad. I put the ass in assume. Yea that style won't for me, I need something that I can make the hook weed less. Thanks though.

Shrink wrap? I was talking about the hook keepers that mister twister and mustad have in their swim bait hooks.

You two guys are so misinformed when it comes to ecofriendly, green and bio plastics. There are many types of green plastics, eco plastics, and bio plastics. The majority are made or composed of natural or also know as organic compounds that are found in nature naturally. So when it does breakdown it breaks down to microscopic organic materials. Just because a plastic can breaks down which All plastics do anyways thanks to time, environment and natural elements. It doesn't have to mean it has to break down to smaller peices of plastics and polluting the water or fish. It all depends on what the material is composed of. This does happen in salt water too, but thanks to the currents, salt water and sun exposure the plastic breaks down a lot faster. I know this isn't a quick fix or a fix all, but it will help fix the problem.

Just one example why we need better eco-friendly biodegradable plastics, that's available to all.

Any know of a supplier for plastic hook keepers or have a good way to make them? I don't want the "screw" type. I have just been bending wire in order to make them just wanted to see if there was a bulk supplier or a easier more consistent way.

I believe that it was all in the angle of the jitterbug lip/bib. I went and bought a protractor and made several other lures with different and more accurate angles. I will keep you all posted once I test them. After research it seems like 45* is the magic number and my original was more like 70*. Oops!

Well I guess it's not working because it's a hybrid of the two lures. It has. Wings like the crazy crawler but I have it located where the lip is on the jitter bug. I'm looking for a left to right swimming action.

Also the Jitterbug

The Crazy Crawler was my inspiration.

Hey guys I'm trying to make a top water-jitter bug style bait that floats. The problem is the bait spins in a circle as I reel it in instead of a left to right motion. The bib/lip makes the lure spin in a propeller action instead of the jitter action. As of right now I have the line eye directly centered in the center of the bait. Does the eye location matter and if so where? I have no clue what I am doing wrong here. Any help or thoughts? Here is a poor illustration of what my lure set up is and what it looks like.

Here is another good article about bio baits. http://www.angling2020.ca/images/stories/catalogues/infs-090022-biodeg.pdf

Here is another link that I have an have more once I find them. http://archives.in-fisherman.com/content/biodegradables-bass

I want to start off I know this is a completely different type of material, process and machine. Has anyone used TPE plastic pellets or played around with the idea? Also at one time I thought there was a fishing lure manufacturer that had a injection press just for this, what happened to that?

Nice link. Glad to see some one else is out there with Eco concerns! I had posted this same topic about a year ago with a few responses but no luck. If you search through the forums there are some other similar topics that may help.

No, I was looking for the spec sheet with technical info like elongation, tear strength, density, shore, and all that crap.

Yea they are not that bad, just need shined up. Took my setup out side since the weather was nice and left them out over night! I know my bad. Duh!

Already did, they have to mail it out. Thought it might be faster on here.

Anyone have a spec sheet on the plastisol we use? I look at all the sites with no luck. It really doesn't matter who makes it, just want to look at it form a engineering perspective

How do you guys clean you aluminum molds and oil them up? Also what products do you use and what type of oil? I have a few molds with sticking hinges and that have been around the block.

How do you guys test new colors with out wasting plastic and time? I remember there being post about some one using baby oil to test new colors but I can't find that thread, got tired after searching through 15 pages.

I'm having the same issue, there has to be a better product or even better way.