Tom P

Is there a certain bill shape that lends it self more to a rolling action on shallow running baits?

Now there`s an elequient idea .....DUH why didn`t I think of trying that.......on the minnow type balsa baits.

These fatter type baits work well in the summer when water temps are higher pitching wing dams or rip rap, cold water period they don`t seem to cut it. Very good information thou Thank You Nitro thank you for the info. I imagine that is why one doesn`t find shad style bait with a rolling action...the fine line you talk about.

BobP Thanks I will have to check these baits out,

I can totally understand what you are saying. Thank You That is why I was wondering if there was a way to get this done. The difference between Rapalas ( balsa ) has to much buoyancy when on the pause, adding weight to slow the rise takes away some of the rolling action. Plastic hollow bates seem to work better, at the pause they are slower rising but don`t roll as good as the balsa baits. Neutral buoyancy baits don`t seem to have enough rise to trigger a strike..

My first post I think I have read this forum from top to bottom and amazed at the talented people on here.. I fish walleyes as my primary target. The fall and winter ( cold water ) they really favor a rolling side to side action versus a wobble. Most shallow baits that accomplish this rolling are narrow and longer pencil shape. My questions can this rolling action be made using a deeper sided bait but yet be shallow. I have included a pic of our shad they favor the most. . i