Hehhna
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First off, great looking lure. A couple observations from a newbie. I would put the balast right where your thumb is. And second, I think it works best to screw your line tie hanger, straight into the body. An with your angle for your lip you will have a difficult time doing that. You may hae to cut out a notch on your lip to allow the screw eye to pass. Good bait though.
Its been awhile since Ive been on here due to school and also football, but i put the ballast in right where you said and it sits very good in water. The next step for me is painting and finish coating it as well as install the bill. other than that, ill be good to go. Any tips on that will be great and ill post a pic of when Im done.
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Wow those look great!!!! What tips do you have!
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When I used rattle cans, I used Dap Touch 'n Tone paints because that's what my local lumber yard carried, and it was cheap.
Dap makes a clear acrylic rattle can sealer that went on really well over the paint.
Recoat time for all the Dap rattle can paints was within the first hour, or after 24 hours, so I'd do the entire paint job, including three coats of the clear, in an hour, waiting 10 minutes between coats.
Then I'd let it sit for a few days to cure out. I could tell when the paint got hard.
My buddy hung one of my wooden rattle can painted baits on a buoy line, and we had to wait a week to retrieve it. The water never bothered the finish at all.
Thanks ill look into that!
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Hey I need some help. I am painting my lures with rattle cans. What would be a good brand? Rustoleum? what should I look out for? I sealed my lure with Sanding Sealer (minwax). Also, I need something I can just dip my lure in and let dry after I paint it for a topcoat.. Any suggestions ?
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Wow, thanks for all the replies. I forgot I posted this question.
When I looked at the joint in the Monster Jack bait, it was so neat and tight, I had a pretty good idea that the eyes were simply pushed into the holes filled with epoxy. I'm glad to know that this is strong enough. I will begin doing this right away. Heck, it should be easier.
One more question. How do you guys "fill" the hole with epoxy. What tool do you use for that. Sounds like an obvious answer, but I know I will get multiple answers. I appreciate the help guys.
Mike
After reading what you guys said, I went ahead and got some waterproof epoxy. I just dabbed the shaft of my screw eye in the epoxy and inserted it into the hole. I kept doing this until I was sure that the epoxy had filled up the hole. It ended up working amazing.
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Hey guys. Just a quick question. I just went out and got some sanding sealer. How do I use this? is it ok to just dunk it and let it dry then dunk it again about an hour later?
Also, AFTER I seal it, I need some advice on the spray paint rattle can style babbbyyyyy. Things such as colors and brands would help a lot. Im nearing the end of my first lure!
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Hey guys! as some of the more active people on this forum know, I am nearing the end of my first lure! But first, I have to seal it before I paint it.
What should I use to seal it? I don't want to thin anything out. Is sealing a process I can do by just dunking it in something and then letting it dry? I don't have a rotational dryer either. I am using Rattle can spray paint no airbrush for painting. But I need to know what to seal my wood lure with.
Also, I need to get a bill yet for it. Any Reccomendations? I want it to run pretty shallow.
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Up to around 3". But your bait had a lot of depth, so might need some ballast. Your plan to try without is reasonable.
is a video of a similar lure that I was prototyping. The adjustable weight fell out, so I decided to make a video of it weightless. You can see that it is trying to swim on its side, as the hooks are just not quite heavy enough. It does swim fine though. 2 or 3 grams of ballast would make all the difference. I have more videos of this prototype if you are interested.Dave
Yeah this is my first carving and sanding of a crankbait. I have to say it looks pretty good other than the tail is a bit flat. Ill learn as I go. Anyhow, I have heard some people saying a split shot is a reasonable thing to use as a ballast. Would I just drill a hole the size of the split shot, insert the split shot in the hole, then fill it in?
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I drill pilot holes in my PVC baits, thread the screw eyes in, back them out again, coat the shank with brushon crazy glue, and screw them back in. The excess glue collects on the surface around the hole as I screw them in, and it forms a kind of a seat for the eye when it's tight to the lure. They hold find. The biggest bass I've caught on one of my small PVC poppers, with .072 sst screw eyes, is the one in my avatar, 8lbs8oz. I can still unscrew them if I need to, but I have to "break them loose" from the crazy glue/top coat seat. I use a double screw eye/hinge pin system for my jointed baits. With two screw eyes, unscrewing isn't possible, since the hinge pin keeps them from rotating. For really small sectional baits, I only put a hook hanger in the first section, so I can use sst cotter pins instead of the larger screw eyes for my hinges, to save space and weight. Since there's no stress on the hinges, other than the swimming action, I've never had one fail. Like Rayburn Guys said, the glue is stronger than the wood or PVC, or whatever you're using, so drilling oversized holes, filling them with epoxy, and then pushing the screw eye in is a strong method. Just try to make the holes the same size as the outside of the screw eye, coat the treads with epoxy before you insert them, fill the hole, and push the screw in. Cleaning up the excess while it's still a liquid is a lot easier than having to drill it out later, so do it if you can.
Thank you! This will save me a bunch of time.
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I get what your talking about now. I made the mistake of drilling a 1/16 pilot hole and tried putting 7/16 diameter screw eyes in that I bought.I think they're to loose. If I just epoxy the holes and the screw before putting them in they'll hold fine?
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I took apart an Excaliber Spitten Image topwater bait and it had the twist wire line ties. I once caught a 9lb 4oz largemouth on a popper, just like the one I took apart. So I would say it will hold up to big fish just fine.
Patrick
I don't have line ties. Like I have holes drillled. your reccomending me fill in the holes with epoxy and then push my screws in that later?
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I think Dave is right. I use hand-twisted screw eyes built one inside the other. I drill holes, fill them with epoxy, butter the threads with epoxy, and push them in the holes. There is some epoxy squeezed out, no problem. When cured, I use a Dremel with a millimeter drill bit to get in there and clean any epoxy off the eyes.
Will that hold up to a good size fish? I drilled a 1/16th hole and my screw eyes are 7/16. Am i in trouble.
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Ballast keeps the bait upright. Hooks are a part of the ballast system and are often enough to get the job done on small lures.
Dave
What would you consider to be a small lure. So right now I plan on sealing the lure, then putting the screw eyes and hooks on and seeing how it sits in water?
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What is the goal of a ballast?
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Assuming the lure is constructed of wood, I would suggest you buy some sanding sealer. You can get a quart of it at just about any hardware store. Dip the lure into the sanding sealer, let dry, dip a second time, let dry. Now you can rattle can the entire lure white, use a couple light coats, don't put it on too heavy or will run on you.........do the spraying outside, paint is toxic! Let dry.
Do your painting, let dry. Now coat with your favorite clear coat.
RM
thanks thats exactly what I needed.
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What do I do about my ballast? I don't even know what to do for that. I haven't sealed it yet or put screw eyes on or painted. Where do I add the ballast or how do I figure that out? Ive tried searching but everything is so confusing.
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Alright so I am finally done with my carving and sanding and general shaping. Now, I need some tips on next steps. What should I do for sealing it? Do i seal it before I paint it?
Im not gonna touch it until I get some more info. I need info like what kind of sealant, where to get it, also what kind of paint? I AM GOING TO BE SPRAY CAN PAINTING WITH STENCILS AND SUCH. NOT AN AIRBRUSH.
I can't wait to get this done guys. Ill post more pics when I'm nearing finishing. Assume im stupid! I would love some more info. I tried searching, but it all just boggled my mind.
Here is where im at right now.
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If you're painting an old plastic crankbait, prepare the surface by sanding with 400 grit paper if needed, then shoot a coat of white paint on the lure, then your colors, then brush on a coat of epoxy to make the paint job durable. Use the search feature to explore the right kinds of epoxy to use and how it needs to be mixed/brushed/rotated. The white paint covers any old paint pattern so it won't show through the new paint.
Airbrushes are simple machines and most brands/models work fine. Some just work better than others for crankbait painting, though, and your choice depends on how much you want to spend. Again, use the search feature to explore your options. There's a wealth of information in earlier posts here on the Hardbaits Forum.
I am painting a freshly carved wooden one.
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I need tips for painting your own lures with SPRAY CANS not an airbrush. Im fine with taping stuff off and spraying through a screen. How do you spin lures and how do you finish them with a clear coat. What is expoxy used for? What is the best airbrush brand to buy?
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1st off, Hi! Welcome to the "Dark Side"... Fishing itself is is quite addictive, but once you catch your first fish on a lure or soft plastic you made, poured or painted... WELLLL There isn't words to describe the feeling inside... I'm very very sure most of these ladies and gents on here would agree.
As to your questions, I would suggest establishing a feeling for the type of fishing your looking into. For example, Topwaters, Cranks, soft plastics, spinners, swimbaits. By far the easiest, and least expensive to start off with is topwaters. You can carve a topwater from just about anything that floats, Screw some small eyescrews in and attach hardware and fish. As far as Making cranks from scratch... There are some of the best builders and info on this forum that it will send your head reeling.
My thing is painting, and as a suggestion to that side, before jumping into airbrushing, try doing up a couple of lures using sharpies and believe it or not nail polish. They are inexpensive and will give you ideas on color combinations. Spray paints will do the jobs for a lot of lures also, but are hard for details without masking and the such. If you look in the gallery at hard baits you can find so many different styles of lures and paint schemes that you can get ideas from.
The best thing about this site is the info, ask questions, read the past topics and find your style. There's a lot of good folks on here that are more than willing to help and the knowledge base is only limited by your imagination.
Good Luck and Tight Lines, bb
OH and another thing is a ballast. How do you apply that to a lure, assuming all lures need them?
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1st off, Hi! Welcome to the "Dark Side"... Fishing itself is is quite addictive, but once you catch your first fish on a lure or soft plastic you made, poured or painted... WELLLL There isn't words to describe the feeling inside... I'm very very sure most of these ladies and gents on here would agree.
As to your questions, I would suggest establishing a feeling for the type of fishing your looking into. For example, Topwaters, Cranks, soft plastics, spinners, swimbaits. By far the easiest, and least expensive to start off with is topwaters. You can carve a topwater from just about anything that floats, Screw some small eyescrews in and attach hardware and fish. As far as Making cranks from scratch... There are some of the best builders and info on this forum that it will send your head reeling.
My thing is painting, and as a suggestion to that side, before jumping into airbrushing, try doing up a couple of lures using sharpies and believe it or not nail polish. They are inexpensive and will give you ideas on color combinations. Spray paints will do the jobs for a lot of lures also, but are hard for details without masking and the such. If you look in the gallery at hard baits you can find so many different styles of lures and paint schemes that you can get ideas from.
The best thing about this site is the info, ask questions, read the past topics and find your style. There's a lot of good folks on here that are more than willing to help and the knowledge base is only limited by your imagination.
Good Luck and Tight Lines, bb
I am actually mainly looking to make Cranks and Jerk baits. Things such as Lead jigs and such don't really fit my fancy because theres no finesse in it and work like carving a wooden lure. Plus you have to deal with lead which I know I would probably screw up. Anyhow, I am mainly focusing on Balsa Wood Cranks. I have heard their action is unmatched and they're relatively easy to carve out. Pouring my own worms will come later. What is your best info on making crankbaits.
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First of all, I am new to this forum and I just wanna say hi to everyone. I'm gonna rely on you guys for a lot of information and help so I might as well get to know you guys. This is my story.
I started fishing about 4 months ago, and I fell in love with it. Im 17 years old, and I would really like to start making my own tackle. Its not really for saving money, but I don't have any hobbies besides my new found love for fishing. I have done some research on making lures and everyone loves doing it that does it. I just need to know how to start out and simple tips would be awesome. I don't have a huge income but I do have a lot of my dads stuff I can use. Anyhow, I need to know simple stuff. Assume I'm an idiot and need details haha. Im really excited to start this. I have done some research but Im still new to it.
I need questions answered such as the following
Wood: What kind to use? What Dimensions and specifications of a typical lure would be awesome. A diagram of a lure would be really nice too if you guys know where I can find one.
Painting: What should I start to think about buying? An airbrush? I have absolutely no expierience in airbrushing but I would love to learn it. Air Compressor? I have an air compressor at my house but its pretty big (like a foot in diameter the tank is) Is that to big and powerful? Also, what kind of paint do I need?
Hooks: How should I attach the hooks? I know theres certain screws with like circles in them what are those called?
Bill: How do I install this on the lure? When should I install this?
Carving: How much is actually required? I know to get the basic shape you need to but how hard is that to do? Could it also be done by a power sanding machine and round it? How do you even carve wood?
Im in rough shape but ANY INFORMATION you can share with me is an amazing help. Again, I can't wait to get started but first I need to atleast know what I'm hoping to be doing. Thanks guys. Don't limit your answers to the questions above anything that helps me is great!
Painting Basecoat Question. Quick!
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Hey guys. I am finally going to finish my lure. I need some help getting started. How do people get the scale affect on their lures? I know they use a mesh of somesort, but what color do they paint under that BEFORE they spray the mesh? Im getting close to the end of my first lure!