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How did it work out? From what I have been reading on the foilling is you need glue? like contact cement or even gold leafing glue used to do automotive gold leafing type work? To make it stick to the lead or metal.. I just bought some samples to try for my self from a heat transfer vinyl supplier.. yet to order the glue...

Could try a place called www.captin hooks discount hook ware house.com Or Hagen fishing supply but I think hagen's only deals in a cretin brand of hooks but not sure always a cool site to know thought...

first off sorry for such a long post.. second what are you painting hard bait spoons and so on? what color do you use the most for fishing bait i.e perch colored rapala's etc ?? if painting hard baits of balsa what about nail polish? thinned with laquer thinner since there is no plastic to melt with heavy solvent and you can spray it threw a air brush just fine.. plus cleans up easy with acetone but do it out side for sure not meant to be spray In home.. same with house of colors paints.. the h.o.k. paints are mixed very specifically to the reducer etc.. if you add hardener you can make isocyanates which is poisonous gas you cant smell or see so be warned.. I have taken a ton of auto body classes air brushing etc classes that deal with chemicals... so I don't want you getting past what you think you can do and get over your head fast... the createx colors, auto air colors first version of wicked colors.. and so on I find are to thin no mater what you do to be spray with the air bush then you got to seal it with epoxy I find works best but ads bulk you could use a clear coat from hok but any nicks in the finish will blister the paint underneath when trolled threw water.. after wasting you money on the createx would be to find a faster drying paint... this is were it is cheaper and easier to just go to the drug store and get nail polish on clearance for like .50 cents a bottle thin it with lacquer thinner that you can get at the hard ware stores like lowes and home depot etc even Walmart carries it.. but first get a niosh approved carbon vapor removal mask used for painting you should even ware it if using rattle cans cause the over spray will deposit its self on your lungs. so you should have it any ways if you have a point five or point three brush it wont have to be thinned very much just enough to spray it try to avoid the color with flake and sparkles in it some times it to big to go threw the air brush... by the way createx you are to use those niosh masks with too this is not the paper kind for like sanding dry wall these are the kind with a charcoal filter in it ...does the same as rattle cans cause it is atomized in the air and the over spray is inhaled or breathed Into the lungs with out it... the faster drying nail polish is easier to use and will dry real quick in light coats but for sure do out doors with lots of ventilation if you do use nail polish it accelerates your learning curve.. which I have found the opposite for createx .. which is a big pain in the arse to use and get use to using if you got a point 5 tip in your air brush forget using createx I feel some times the point 3 is the same way you need detail brushes to do any sort of work with it casue the stuff is over thinned the stuff from janns net craft I am referring to...the createx really irked me on how it preformed ... but every one is different o be aware of it as for colors these sizes are for starting in createx water borne type colors I always reduce unless they say it is pre done with fast dry reducer I think its 4011 not sure though I would have to look.. first layer would be sealers either black or white depending on shade and hue your after I buy those in 16 ounces sizes they are used that much!! if making a red or orange base color you can mix the orange in to the white for a deeper orange for less coats of orange etc etc... the two most used colors: these I buy in larger quantities like 8 oz's black base coat white base coat next would be detail colors like base coat colors :: in smaller quantities like 2 oz's if you get good at what you do a little white or black to the color will make it dark or lighter a tad browns dark / light olive green dark / light blues a dark / light purple dark/light red fl. chartreuse fl. orange fl. pink last but one of the most used would be a clear coat either epoxy like a lite formula rod finish or a spray on clear either from a rattle can or a spray brush... the epoxy is your best one and strongest so remember that if the rattle can clears don't work out ... then you add in the transparent colors are colors you paint over the lest say orange base coat separate by the black back line to make it set back a tad or get darker so it disappears or fades in to the black better.. kind of like true fire they start out with moly orange then go to the pagan gold in certain spots to get it to get darker... like it is 3d and doing the opposite of popping out at you it sinks or fades away from you... little trick you learn with paint in water borne trans parent color do what candy colors do in house of color paint or h.o.k . paints... like reds golds or yellows oranges blue green to darken up green etc.. etc.. those color I would not buy more then 2 oz's at a time kind of if you were doing a perch black baring chartreuse body you can spray the green transparent over the black and chartreuse. to darken up the chartreuse like up by the top of the back but the black the green you cant see it on the chartreuse you can it disappears on the black so concentrate the over sprayed area on the black.. so it not as noticed...so its like layers black darker green/ chartreuse then full chartreuse... if you can if you do go with this I did not like the createx as much as the hok paint but it not always easy to find some were to spray the h.o.k. paints cause they can be toxic so be warned... I will leave it off here there is just to much info to digest on paint alone...as you can tell... let people know if you need help and what you need help on!

same here if you talk to the dive shops for scuba divers let them know you want lead most of all the ones close by the ocean I know Texas has a lot of ocean by it. tell them you can pick it up weight it etc.. what ever is needed and paying cash some time it helps to let them know divers get money towards lessons and air to dive some more even buy the lures they find I do some times depending on quality heck you can resell almost all the gear they bring up except mono this way you helping the environment a tad by cleaning up the ocean floors with a little help from scuba divers!! find out what there selling there lead for and buy it for a few cents more like I was saying jd beaver buys for .35 to .40 cents a pound and sells for .70 - . 80 cents a pound if there selling it for .38 cents a pound you offer .40 cent your saving .30cents a pound there making .02 cent per pound extra towards free gear just for collecting junk to them!!

lead market says it at .79 cents a pound steel is .03 cents a pound so I was not far off if you can get lead for .15 cents a pound let me know were I will buy it!

which scrap yards cause the one by me sells it for .70 cents a pound?? the national rate for scrap lead resale they buy it for .40 cents a pound and sell it for .70 is what kills me... that's why you can out buy some guys like scuba diver by buying it at .34 to .45 cents a pound and skip the up charge of the middle man. from places like jd beavers incorporated in brighton Michigan they sell for .70 cent a pound last I looked...but of course scrap went down when china stopped buying it scrap steel from us it went from .034 cent a pound to half that .015 cents a pound last year you maybe right have not check in a year so you could very well be right...

I guessing you are using a pour spout type pot is why the fits with the salvage lead.. if you have access to a ladle off type pot that's what I would get for the salvage type lead if pouring bullets use the better lead in the pour spout type pot only is my suggestions it how I do it.. another good place to get lead cheap is dive shops for scuba divers some times they dive old wrecks and come up with 100 to 200 pounds a dive of jigs and sinkers you can offer to buy it back from them for .30-.60 a pound it is what I do and I think I got 200 to 300 pounds in the garage at .35 cents a pound they get so much they will call you to sell it so leave a phone number then sell it all to your buddies that use lead at .40 to .80 cents a pound.. but for sure do not put this type of lead threw pour spout type pots it is a good way to plug it and get burned trying to clear the obstructions that why all my sinkers and other what not are poured on my ladle off pot casue it cheaper I do got a herters pot with a pour spout for pouring bullets....the harder the lead the better it is for bullets softer lead deforms coming out of the barrel just a tip...

are you planing to use a certin mold? if not what about tungsten powder and epoxy mixed together or even steel beads and nails?lashed to hooks a lot of my friends from new york can't use lead so they by some large steel beads insert a nail in it and tie it to the hook with fly tying thread but they will bend the nail at a 30* angle so it don't pull out of the thread this is the easiest way to make jigs steel/tungsten beads you can even get bullet sinker made of the stuff for bass fishing and use a nail same way if after just the weight for jigging if it is a certain molded head your after I would not use flux the flux helps the 95/5 adhere to the surface of what's being soldered so it will adhere to your pot.. and as other said will corrode the pot to the point it is wrecked...you can use 90* and 45 * etc jig hooks with those beads and tungsten weights ...any how just suggestions...

the hilz mold look like it but it is only ounces i need it in pounds...

at tcpglobal.com the item number for the hose is: Item #: ABD TH-021 you got to get a air chuck quick connect adaptor 1/4 npt thread for the end for like adding to power tools form the store... you can get it at like lowes or home depot etc... one end of hose gets the air chuck quick connect adaptor the other goes to your air brush... you may want to put a regulator on the compressor to regulate it down to useable psi for the air brush if it don't got it already! mounted to the compressor... that's a master premium air bush hose 6 foot long they do have longer if you need them?

any one know were i can find one cheap? i can go to a machine shop and it cost around $400 to $600 to make from aluminum any one know were to find one? for a 2 pound surf claw sinker?

i got the air eraser from harbor freight it not bad i think the problem people have with them is getting parts. they don't sell them on their web site so you got to order them from the company so it harder yet to do. but if you get one of those 20% off coupons you can get it real cheap for a ab or air eraser. unless like me you got one by you then shipping will be there too... by the way the air eraser is for sand blasting not powder painting that why i said some thing...but if you try it it's up to you.... i don't know how you could go wrong with a air eraser or a air brush? i think the tips are .5 on the air brushes? so it would be a good general use brush not a detail brush . by general use i am talking a wider spray pattern that you cant do details free hand like scales this would be better with a .20 brush.

if looking at air erasers check out harbor freight...i think the powder brush is different ? not sure?? i was told by a instructor that harbor freight make a descent air brush.. like how can you go wrong?

what about some thing like ec413's and bend them with a pair of pliers like so. these are sunrise barb smashing pliers i sure you can find them all over they are also use to bend hook but be careful ware safety spec's etc.. by the way these link are just for example i am sure if you search you will find them cheaper... link to barb smashing pliers http://store.hookhack.com/Mini-Needle-Nose-Pliers/productinfo/38MMNNP/ link to ec413's http://www.captainhookswarehouse.com/index.cfm?page=detail&hookid=171&view=1

the tip of reg air brushes will not work you need a special air brush for powder painting like a 1.0 tip badger make one tjstackle.com sells but it cost like $50 fine details are not possible with it would do a splater pattern real easy could just get some straws and dip the tip in powder paint and blow threw straw spray lure with powder paint?