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Rounding of hardwood lures
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 12:37 PM
A while since my last posting so here goes.
I have searched for advice in the archives as to what is the best way of rounding off the backs of flat sided jerk baits but not really been succesfull. At the moment I am cutting out the shapes and then sanding by freehand the backs with a dremmel type drill with one of those tiny sanding drums. This is quite succesfull and gets the result I need but I just feel there must be a quicker, better and more efficient way of doing it. I bought myself a router and mounted that in a bench thinking I could just smooth the lure along the blade NO NO NO this has to be the worst idea in the world, my advice is dont do that its deadly!!!!!!! (I still have all my fingers but only by pure luck).
I am using Beech.
Posted 29 October 2007 - 01:07 PM
I'd like to hear some answer as well. What I have been doing is cutting out the radius profile on a small block of wood and then put my sand paper in the block. This can be complicated though if the lure has several taper areas. I made one for the side, one for the belly and one for the back. The best way so far that I found to ruff one in is to use a scroll saw.Draw the top profile and side profile on a block of wood. Cut the top profile and then tape it back together then cut the side profile. Make sure you leave some wood on the outside edge of your drawing to help support the piece when you're cutting it. In other words dont draw the nose or tail of the lure on the very end of the wood .
Then you can use the blocks with different radius curves to round over the sharp corners. Hope this makes sense.
Posted 29 October 2007 - 01:33 PM
I have a scroll saw but find it very difficult to control accurately, to be fair it is probably the way I have it set up but I only use it for cutting out the shapes roughly for which it is ideal.
I can only sand by hand for finishing also cos beech is such a hard wood I think it would take a week to round off by hand .
Thanks for your reply Skeeter.
Posted 29 October 2007 - 01:48 PM
The easy, quickest and most accurate way is to use a router. A couple words of caution here, make a fixture to hold the bait, do not even attempt fingers, and use good quality router bits. The baits pictured were done with a router.
Posted 29 October 2007 - 01:59 PM
I'm not much of a woodworker and don't own a router (so far) so I still use Dremel sanding drums. First, I taper the tail and head on a disk sander. Then, before rounding with the Dremel, I lay out sanding lines on the sides, top and bottom with a compass. That makes things much more symetrical than whacking away freehand. Fast? Not especially. But if you aren't gonna use a router or a duplicating lathe, there really don't seem to be many options.
Posted 29 October 2007 - 03:01 PM
I use strips cut from belt sander belts to round the edges on flat sided baits. I put a bait halfway into a wise and then using the strips as if you were polishing a shoe I round the edges.
Got the idea from this site but found that the belts strips were more sturdy than the recommended strips cut from sheets from sandpaper.
Posted 29 October 2007 - 03:01 PM
How do you fix the lures ? It had occured to me to do that but I could not come up with any ideas other than drilling a couple of holes through them and screwing them to a board.
Posted 29 October 2007 - 04:11 PM
I've got a combination disc/belt sander. I set my disc table at 45 deg. & knock off the edges equally, then round off with a dremel or rasp. Really saves alot of time.
Posted 29 October 2007 - 05:21 PM
Hi again fellas
Firstly many many thanks for your replies, these pearls of wisdom are really priceless, where but the TU could you get such advice ?. Anyway tonight I have taken the plunge and screwed a couple of baits to my workbench and succesfully routered the rounding. I could not see any other way of holding the baits firm without getting in the way of the blade other than screwing em down.
Posted 29 October 2007 - 05:28 PM
I haven't tried it yet, but they make a vacuum type holder that is supposed to work. a variation is in the woodworking depot magazine, but I was told to make one myself with an old refrigerator motor.
Posted 29 October 2007 - 06:04 PM
PhilB, using about a 6" section of a large dowel drill two holes in one end slightly smaller than a small finish nail. Now cut the heads of the nails of and using a little epoxy push the nails into the dowel leaving about 3/16" exposed. You can now take your bandsawed blank and push the nails into the blank and using one hand on top of the dowel and the other to turn it round over al the edges. this must be done on a router table. You will have a couple hole to putty but it works great, just remember quality router bits.
Posted 29 October 2007 - 07:11 PM
I have found that corner shaping and radius routers are a lot more forgiving than cylinder, profile cutters, but it is still an accident waiting to happen.
Whittler's solution will work, but you should make sure that you are alone in the work shop, because I doubt whether a 3/16 tack will hold the wood if it snags or bites in. That piece of wood will be ripped off those nails and fired across the shop at a high rate of pain!
Posted 29 October 2007 - 07:38 PM
If you are worried about your fingers and the router table why not lay out your baits in a similiar fashion as this then cut the line of baits out with the scroll saw then router the entire line of baits then cut apart then you would just have a very small section to freehand on each individual blank
Posted 30 October 2007 - 12:58 AM
Router table...........but be careful!!! I haven't been hurt by a router but it scares me everytime I use it.
Posted 30 October 2007 - 06:42 AM
Being scared is why you still have all of your fingers Jed!
Posted 30 October 2007 - 08:01 AM
Do most of the lures you guys make have a flat side?. I have been trying to make my sides Round. The router would work well to start the round over on the edges. I'm doing balsa now so sandpaper is doing fine.
Also it was mentioned here about duplicators on a lathe. I read a post on this on this site. If I am trying to make shad shaped round lures, can they be copied with a duplicator. It does'nt seem possible to me?
Posted 30 October 2007 - 10:06 AM
Blackjack's idea is a good one for those making bass lures with balsa. Without being able to round the nose and tail though would leave me with a ton of work!!
Posted 30 October 2007 - 10:30 AM
What an ace idea it never entered my thick head to do that. I'll give it a go.
Posted 30 October 2007 - 06:14 PM
Riverman - I used to rout my 2" lures like this10 years back (30 at a time) and never had a problem, saved heaps of time, I used to sell them then. You just have to make a table to hold the plank and get an appropiate size 'round over' bit, I used a 20mm one. Cedar or some sort of pine is better than balsa , but I suppose balsa would work. Pete