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Posted 09 December 2007 - 09:54 AM
I am almost ready to paint some reconditioned old poes:(. What is the best way to hold the lures for painting. Have tried the medical clips and block of wood. Tried a search but not much there. Any suggestions. Thank you.
Posted 09 December 2007 - 10:31 AM
Try the handle of an x-acto knife handle. I use this while painting then use the bill to clip it to the drying wheel. Good Luck! MAV
Posted 09 December 2007 - 02:12 PM
thanks for the link, I use the xacto's and 1.31 each for 24 or more is a lot better than 2.12 that I am currently paying. I have 26 or so right now, but will spring for 25 more at that price.
Posted 09 December 2007 - 03:57 PM
I cut reusable "false lips" out of lip material, drill a hole in the end to hang the baits from nails. Insert the false lip into the bait so it holds firmly (a little masking tape added if needed). Use a pair of locking forceps to hold the baits while painting and the false lips keeps everything out of the lip slot until it's time to glue in the real lips.
Posted 09 December 2007 - 05:05 PM
Bop- liked that ONE, saves dirty lips and lip slot, so simple, why didn't I think of it . Thanks Pete
Posted 09 December 2007 - 09:31 PM
I use hemostats, 6" with the vinyl handles. Much easier IMO than the xacto handles, operate with one hand, three locking positions and you can hang your baits using the holes in the handle. I make alot of Musky baits and xacto handle will not hold those. I got mine on ebay, 25 for $15.
Posted 09 December 2007 - 10:06 PM
Thanks for the information. I will purchase some of the knives. Using the old lip is a great idea. You people are awesome. Any suggestions how to get a broken lip out of an old bait. I have several.
Posted 09 December 2007 - 11:17 PM
Removing old lips is difficult...But you can try this. I did it a couple of times and it worked OK.
First grind off as much of the lip as you can without harming the finish on the bait. Next take a rotary tool with a cut-off wheel and slowly slide the cutting wheel into into the lip itself but as close to the lip slot as you can. Take your time and you should be able to grind it out a little at a time and install a new one. Wear goggles and be careful though; those wheels can hang up and break sometimes.
As to holding the baits...Try using a small bench vise. Clamp the bait into the vise by the tail's hook holder. That way its held firm, you cannot drop it, and you can swivel the vise left and right as you paint. You can also clamp it in
vertically to paint the back and belly colors. It give you a stationary position and leaves both hands free to guide the airbrush.
Try it. You'll really like it.
Its also a great way to hold the bait to apply the netting and spray your scale effects.
I also use the vise to hold the bait while applying gill details at times.
Posted 10 December 2007 - 12:04 AM
for one off or very low volume, the methods stated above are practical. But I see a need for a design of an 'easy to make' tool for runs of a dozen or more lures made at a time. Two 'clamps' to remain attached throughout the art process and fit the drying wheel, providing total hands free conditions.
I have given this some thought time in the last few months. Something on the lines of 6mm dia dowel, slotted to make a jaw and tapered to enable a collar or even a split ring (hook ring) to be used as the clamp.
The aim has to be (a) very cheap, ( very easy AND QUICK to manufacture.
Has anyone else any ideas for this tool?
Posted 10 December 2007 - 01:49 AM
I have been using xacto type clamps attached to an RCA (?) jack for a few months, works quit well, but I am finding that my Propionate brew ( thinners based) is melting the plastic blade clamp. If you buy the metal type clamp ( see ‘Basseducer’) this should be much more durable. See Pics
When not on the wheel or painting, stick the jack in a hole drilled in your bench, you never have to detach the lure from the holder. I know I'm allways posting Pics, but they speak a 1000 words. Pete
Posted 10 December 2007 - 06:03 AM
Pete, another great solution to a problem. Nice one!
Pete also informs me that the hemo's are available quite cheaply, so my post may be irrelevant to most, but I would still welcome any ideas.
Posted 10 December 2007 - 06:26 AM
Vodkaman-Dave. I can see the dowell would also be good (and cheap) and you could stick the dowell into the end of the jack, it would have a wider jaw than those exacto knife do-dars. pete
Posted 10 December 2007 - 09:36 AM
The action of inserting into the jack could be the clamping action. Lots of possibilities with the jack.
Posted 10 December 2007 - 11:20 AM
Pete, that is a great idea! I never thought of using any type of electrical jacks. Ordinary microphone jacks would be another fabrication option and are readily available in the US at Radio Shack.
And keep those pictures coming. I get great ideas from your posts.
Posted 10 December 2007 - 02:50 PM
After reading this thread, an ideea came out of my head. It took me about 6-7 minutes to make the jig in the pictures. I used things which I had in the house. Ordinary metal sheet, screws, drilling machine. The result is satisfactory, the lure is clamped pretty good in this jig, but it can surely be improved. By using steel metal sheet, or by doubling the metal band at the end, or by using a special nut or screw instead of the small usual screw, the kind which you operate by your fingers, not by using a screwdriver or wrench. (could it be called butterfly nut or screw?)
The long screw (which is 4 mm in diameter) could stay in a nut which, in turn, could be fixed on a drying weel, or something else.
Posted 10 December 2007 - 07:25 PM
Rofish, that'll work. Should be able to knock 50 of those out in an hour, with a bit of organisation. With the wing nut clamp as close to the eye as possible, the clamp should be plenty strong enough.
Could also be used with the jack plug, electrical or audio as Fatfingers suggested.
Posted 10 December 2007 - 10:48 PM
I also like your idea of the Electrical Jacks. A nice modular kind of approach. You could even install a couple of these on the inside surface of you Paint Booth to hold your lure while painting or in between color changes. BTW I am familiar with these types of jacks and they are normally called Banana Jacks (RCA Jacks are the jacks usually seen on the back of a set of speakers). These are easy to find at Radio Shack (Expensive) or Mail Order (Cheap) from Allied, Newark or Digikey any many discount online stores.