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Posted 13 December 2007 - 12:05 PM
i painted four crankbaits on fri the 7thi used createx with a little glass cleaner with ammonia ,thier in a room thats about 72 degres. does any body have any ideas can i put them in a toaster oven for a bit . or can i epoxie them agian and start over , any ideas thanks.
Posted 13 December 2007 - 02:32 PM
im sorry in all that mess i foregot to say they will not dry. the paint is still very tacky.
Posted 13 December 2007 - 02:51 PM
try flash drying with a hot hairdryer. Why did you use glass clearner to thin the c-tex?
Posted 13 December 2007 - 02:57 PM
Cant really understand why you used addatives instead of good old H2O
I use createx along with auto cellulose paints and just thin with water (the createx that is)and then to speed up drying just flash with a hair dryer. I suspect your problem lies with the thinners you have used but I'm no chemist so I'm only guessing but I would try with water as your thinner..
Posted 13 December 2007 - 03:08 PM
OK, Createx should not be tacky at any point in it's drying process. If you mean it's still just wet, wash off the paint with water and a scrub brush and paint them again using only water to thin the paint slightly.
You said epoxy them again. Did you topcoat them with epoxy or just seal then paint over them? If you just sealed them and painted over it, the epoxy may not have cured before you painted. If it's the topcoat that's tacky, you didn't mix the epoxy well enough. Just mix up another batch of epoxy and make sure you mix it fully. Mix for at least a minute to be sure. Then just apply over the other coat, it'll make the first coat cure along with the second.
Posted 13 December 2007 - 03:41 PM
I strain createx before I spray. I return the strained pigments to the bottle. After a while I need to thin the paint in the bottle with water.
Posted 13 December 2007 - 03:57 PM
Jody, it's not clear whether you're having problems with the paint or the epoxy clearcoat. If the clearcoat never got hard, you can just recoat it with more epoxy (properly measured and mixed this time) and the new coat will fix the sticky one 99% of the time. If it's the Createx, wash it off and start over again. Some Createx colors always feel a bit tacky to me even when I know they are dry (this is unadulterated, straight from the bottle Createx). I'm guessing that's the flow enhancer they put in it. I just ignore it and clearcoat it, and haven't had any problem.
Posted 14 December 2007 - 01:55 AM
let me see if i can explane this mess, first i sealed the baits, second i put devcon let it dry or two to three days and yes it was dry third painted with createx with a little windex for a little extra lube, i use a ten dollar air brush it just think it helps a little bit, instead of water i use windex never had this problem before. tryed using the hair dryer still very tacky. i t was going to be a base coat for a crackling affect. hope this some stuff up. thanks
Posted 14 December 2007 - 06:03 AM
If you normally run this procedure and it worked fine before, then you must have done something different this time. Maybe a new paint, different bottle of windex a different amount. Something different, otherwise you are snookered!
After cleaning off the lure, lay a couple of paint strokes down just to test. Use the hair dryer and it should be dry in a couple of minutes. If not, leave out the windex, the concensus is that it is not necessary.
Please post your findings, good luck.
Posted 14 December 2007 - 10:48 AM
i did a little test last night i painted two baits one with windex with ammonia one with windex with vinegar , the one with ammonia is still tacky the one with vinegar is dry. i dont know what the ammonia does to createx , but it wont dry . thanks for the replys
Posted 14 December 2007 - 03:41 PM
Some of the ready-made airbrush thinning solutions like the Createx 4011 warn against using too much, lest you prevent the paint from forming a coherent film. This probably applies to homebrew thinners like Windex, etc, too.
Posted 14 December 2007 - 06:39 PM
I also use windex/ammonia to thin(mostly auto-air) but have never had the problem your describing? I flash my paint with a hair dryer.