Can anyone share some paint recipes?
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Posted 24 December 2007 - 09:32 PM
Mr Bester, welcome to TU.
I'm getting a touch of the de-ja-voux here (excuse my french, I don't have any). Question, what makes the lure wiggle? Answer, make some firewood and find out yourself?!!!
Obviously paint recipes are a touchy no-go area of lure design, you only have to read the 'hard bait cookbook' to understand that, 2 pages and some chitchat in three and a half years! I think it is time to un-stick this sticky and let it slip away into obscurity, either that or start adding to it.
I hope this thread slips away too. This is not the message we should be giving out.
Merry Christmas to you all.
Posted 24 December 2007 - 11:32 PM
I don't think D.P. was ragging you for the question, I think what he meant was that there is a wealth of information that is available at your fingertips, just type the right question in any search engine, or the search engine on this site and you will find the information that you are looking for. I don't profess to be an expert but when I started with an airbrush I had no art training, 90 percent of the knowledge that I have gained over the years has come from copying what is out there in production lures, Trying to figure out what colors were used to produce your favorite production pattern is all the fun. Then you can add your own creative flair. There certainly is a learning curve when it comes to matching paints but in the long run it will make you a better painter. There is no shortcut. As long as you have a color monitor and are not color blind, the sky is the limit(and it is also blue at times!!)
Posted 24 December 2007 - 11:49 PM
Maybe, it's certainly totally out of character. Normally one of the most helpful and supportive members on the site. But I read it the same way as Mr Bester.
Just a simple leg up into the mystical world painting is all that was asked for. Secret recipes? Just keep them secret!
Posted 24 December 2007 - 11:57 PM
If I built for sale and had a catalog of paint schemes, it would behoove me to develop very specific paint recipes. I don't and I haven't, and most hobby builders on TU haven't either. If you follow the "normal rules" of painting from the bottom up and layering darker paint over lighter, you'll usually be on the right track. I guess there are 2 schools of thought about paint - the doofuses and the "engineers". Some guys just wanna hit it with paint and see what happens. Some want to perfect it via wavelength analysis and use numerically controlled robotic airbrushes to produce colors "within tolerance". Most of us fall somewhere in between. There, I've taken my annual shot at engineers before the New Year! Doctor, I feel so much better! Merry Christmas, guys.
Posted 25 December 2007 - 12:28 AM
The only paint "secret" I have is a recipe for an avacado green that I made to give a trout bait a lighter colored back.
All Createx transparent water based colors.
10 drops tan
2 drops bright green
1 drop bright yellow
As you can see, it's not rocket science. For me, it's not even art. I just started with what I thought might be a good base, the tan, added some green drops one at a time, stirring well, and then added a drop of the yellow to give it a little lighter green color, and came up with avacado.
I didn't know beans about color, and still don't.
My sister is an artist, and she can paint or do anything in art.
Sometimes talent skips a generation. In our case, it skipped me, period.
I just fumble around and try stuff.
But there is no wrong in paint, just new colors that do or don't work.
Working from the bottom up is a really good process.
After you seal your bait, and prime it, use a base coat that will be the foundation of your bait's color scheme. For me, it's either pearl white, or pearl silver.
Look at any fish, the bottom is lighter than the top, so, looking up, they blend in with the sky, and, looking down, they blend in with the bottom.
Try to keep your bottom foundation color clean up at least 1/3 of the side, then start with you secondary color, like, in the case of rainbow trout, a hot pink. Typically, I spray the back from the side, and the overspray goes down part way to the bottom, giving me a misty hot pink stripe, and a solid hot pink on the back. Then I use the avacado on the top of the back, and let it overspray down the sides a little. Idealy, there will be a hot pink mist line, and then the avacado begins from soft to solid on the back. I may spray a darker green down the middle of the back, and highlight the head with translucent tourquoise. But light on the tournquoise. I use a hair dryer to heat set the colors after each spray, and I clean my airbrush between colors.
After I've heat set/dried the final color, I use a water based red sharpie to highlight the gills, and a little red regular sharpie under the chin, and then a black water based sharpie to make the trout dots. Either I make a whole bunch of small dots, or less, but more definate, larger dots.
I try to bear in mind the whole time that the basic color of a rainbow trout is silver. I also bear in mind that, in my case, I'm making a reaction bait, and the impression of a trout is what I'm after. Also, something that's a little different that what other's are throwing.
After I let the bait dry for a day, I put it on MY NEW DRYING WHEEL ( ) ), and coat it with Envirotex Lite epoxy. After 24 hours, if it's set and dry to the touch, I put on a second coat, and, Voila!, I'm a genieass! )
Now you know my entire secret paint scheme collection. I'm new to lure building, so I don't have a big library to share. But I can copy like a champ, and that's what my test board is for. I sprayed both pearl white and pearl silver on a piece of sealed, primed plywood, and I just try different color combinations on it to get close to what the guys in the gallery have done. I haven't screwed up enough courage to try stencils yet, but, compared to the rattle cans I started with, my airbrushed lures make me happy.
And I have a few of my buddies trying to bum them off me. Now that's a rush!
Posted 25 December 2007 - 04:05 AM
The answers really are right in front of you, did you REALLY open your eyes??? dampeoples has an Photo Album link as part of his signature. OPEN IT. There are several photos titled, “Basecoat on my first crank paintjob”. And so the story begins. And, while I‘ve never talked dampeoples, I wouldn’t surprised if his first name is Sterling, although I could totally wrong on that one. But as I look around a little, I see a guy who is pretty passionate about his lures. As you start to look around his album, you’ll come a cross a photo that really caught my eye that is pretty telling, the with the caption, “My brother (on the right) and I, right after I cut my hair for Wigs For Kids” Here is the link for the program http://www.wigsforkids.org/. As you look around his album, you’ll see examples of all the crank baits he’s made… all the spinners, jigs, even some custom painted reel.
I look at his public profile on TU and can see Sterling even has a sense of humor… why is your public profile just mostly, as a friend on this so aptly put it, an empty page.
Bester, try to have a Merry Christmas and maybe you’ll you learn to look around and annualize the information and data everywhere on TU.
Posted 25 December 2007 - 09:17 AM
Thanks to all those who tried to help. I'd think it best to just let the thread die. Spike a pike I'll update my profile for you.
Posted 25 December 2007 - 10:18 AM
Ladies and gentlemen,
lets all try to remember that most of the messages we send as humans are visual, on these message boards we lose that aspect.
Everyone on here is trying to help each other out. Remeber the best answer may not be the answer we want to hear! nonetheless it's still the best answer. All to often we read the words and fail to read the message.