Soft topwater frog question

[pastorshane]

Some times when I fish horney toads, sizmic toads, and even my own, they flip and run upside down. Do they do this to others, am I rigging wrong, I'm using a frog hook with a hitch hiker on the eye of the hook. Any suggestions?

[Spike-A-Pike]

I can't help but ask if you could post a photo of the way you're rigging it? I couldn't even begin to provide a comment without seeing it.

[LooksLikeSinbad]

I've fished a lot of soft plastic frogs and never had them run upside down. Are you rigging it like the top one on this photo?

[GB GONE]

Hey Shane... I have done a ton of frog fishing and they all end up flipping. Usually, it is because the bait is not flat or rigged in a straight line. As the bait slips or the hook moves, the bait bends and will run upside down because that is where the resistance is.

You can add a little lead tape on the hook up near the front to help OR put a nice faceted bead on your line to help stop the nose of the bait from getting beat up so bad and moving the bait on the hook. I have also used a punch out from a butter lid on my hook on the underside of the frog to keep the bait in the right place and not slipping down on the hook.

Keep throwing them though as they will get you some GREAT fish!! (29+lbs in a tourney last year)!!!

Jim

PS Goes for the paddle tail frogs..not the horny toads. They dont flip much because they give little resistance in the water from the legs!!

[pastorshane]

Sinbad, yes I am rigging it like the top picture. I am thinking of running the hook down through the legs and hook in the rear of the bait.

Jim, thanks for the advise, I still catch lots of fish on them, I just wish they ran up rite more. I'll try the centered hook to, I do use a bead on the nose some but don't know if it helped or not. I'll try it in the morning on our little pond as well. I'll let you guy's know.

Thanks for the responces.

Shane

[Dink Master]

Watch this Video.

http://www.secretsoftheoutdoors.com/frogrigging.html

[pastorshane]

Awesome video! Thanks, maybe I wasn't rigging it straight enough. I'll give it a try. Thanks Again guy's

[mark poulson]

I was putting a small piece of plastic worm on the hook before I rigged the back, and then pushing it tight to the underside of the frog after rigging to give the frog a sway back rigging. That kept it from flipping 100 percent of the time. My partner gave me a plastic bobber stopper to try, and it works even better. Just thread it onto the hook before you rig the rear portion, and push it back against the frog until it has a slight sway back. It also helps increase the leg action.

I'd rather not use a weighted hook if I can help it. The Ribbit Bull Frog is heavy enough by itself, even in the wind. I will use a weight if I'm fishing the smaller Ribbit, and it's windy, or the water is super clear and I need longer casts. But, generally, I can throw both weightless with 50lb braid.

[Hawgydawg]

Alot of the time these lure will run on their back. But since this is a lure that you must wait a 3 second count to set the hook it dont really matter. We fish the ribbit here on Guntersville and I have seen this to not be a problem.

[pastorshane]

thanks for the reply's guy's, I am going to try the bobber stop as well, I'll let you guy's know. I have caught lots of fish with this bait up side down, I guess its for my own satisfaction. Thanks

[GB GONE]

My partner gave me a plastic bobber stopper to try, and it works even better. quote]

Can you give me a little more info on this one... Are you talking about the metal piece inside the plastic bobber or what??

Thanks!!!!

Jim

[Dink Master]

I think he is using a stopper on the backend near the point?

[GB GONE]

I think that also but was wondering what part of the bobber he was using...

Jim

[Dink Master]

Bobber Stops from Bass Pro Shops.

Bobber Stops

Allows you toposition bobbers for specific depths. Stops canbe repositioned to adjust for fishing conditions.Includes 12 stops and beads.

[mark poulson]

I use something like the blue part of the bobber stoppers Dinkmaster posted.

After I screw my hitchhiker into the ribbit, and clip it onto the hook eye, I slip the bobber stopper onto the point, and push it around until it's just past the bend. Then I texpose the hook through the ribbit's bottom, and push the bobber stopper back down around the bend until it snugs up against the underside of the ribbits bottom. I push it up until the ribbit has a sway back a little. That seems to force the nose up so it swims right side up without adding any weight, and it also makes the legs a little more active, since they're forced up as well.

[pastorshane]

I get the idea, I may have to buy stoppers for heavier line, the ones I have here localy to choose from are for like 4lb line & Very hard not to rip getting it on the hook. Seems to work, though. Thanks Shane

[PikeMastaRapp]

Nice video. Funny about the guys rod:lol:

[tylerd1994]

where do you get those weighted hooks and what size are they

[mark poulson]

When I use weighted hooks, I use 4/0 and 5/0 weighted hooks by Falcon. They were the first to offer weighted hooks that size. Now a lot of hook manufs. offer them.

I'd type "weighted hooks" into the search feature at Cabela's, Bass Pro Shops, and Tacklewarehouse.com, and see what each site has.