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Posted 31 January 2008 - 01:20 AM
I'll tell you why I don't want to rotate my baits for this long: it's because the electrical motor would get hot. I bought it as a second hand one (the only possibility for a new one seems to be to buy a microwave oven and take the motor out of it). So I don't know if a microwave electrical motor would normally get hot after an hour, or there is something wrong with the motor I have.
What about thinning the epoxy with alcohol?
Posted 31 January 2008 - 08:03 AM
Motors do get hot anyway. There may be nothing wrong. If anyone thinks that I am wrong about this, then please step in.
Any how, you should never leave a motor unattended.
Posted 31 January 2008 - 09:33 AM
I just need to know where I can get a good motor that wont spin the baits too quickly. The mount and clips should not be hard to create. Where did you guys get your motors?
Posted 31 January 2008 - 12:59 PM
I got my motor off of a reindeer. the kind that is made of wire and minature lights. they are sold at christmas time. the motor made the reindeers head move. it is geared to turn approximately 4 RPM's. they cost about 20 bucks and as an added bonus, you can use the minature bulbs to make the glass rattles.
Posted 31 January 2008 - 06:26 PM
what are the dimensions? I mean there are 4 rpm motors that are too small to turn baits on some websites, and it's hard to tell if they will work. Is there another measurement, such as voltage or fractional horsepower?
Posted 31 January 2008 - 06:33 PM
I got a Taiwan ROC model AC-1011 Macro-Yang 115V, 50-60 hz synchronous AC 4 rpm motor from American Science and Surplus and it has worked great for 3 yrs on my 6 bait lure turner. I've also seen them sold on Ebay occasionally. They cost around $7 and have a surprising amout of torque for their small size. Nothing lasts forever and I'm sure it will fry itself eventually, but so far, so good.
Posted 31 January 2008 - 10:08 PM
I have been using a micro wave motor (have 4 now) for about 9 months an still going strong, sometimes leave it on all night (coolest time here)- They have heaps of torque and the one I am using now is a 5-6 rpm model - never had more than 4 lures on it and as long as you balance the load, I think you could put a dozen 6" on it with no problems- I grab them every chance I get (cause I'm a hoarder) and they usually range from 2 to about 6 rpm, depending on the type of oven- or $4-$5 on eeeeBay. pete
Posted 31 January 2008 - 10:39 PM
I just ordered a lure of of the Scientific surplus sight for $15. It is a 2.5 rpm and seems like its got some torque on it! can't wait to get it in.
Posted 01 February 2008 - 12:08 AM
A good rule of thumb is if the motor is too hot to hold, it's having a problem. Hot motors melt the insulation on their windings, and short out.
The windings used to be coated in varnish. I'm sure they have some high tech coating now, but varnish worked well for a long time. And overheating melted the varnish and made the winding short.
I don't know how these newer motors, like for microwaves, are made, but if it gets too hot to hold, you can bet it's in trouble.
Posted 01 February 2008 - 12:11 AM
I have used a few different motors (including one that I modified from an eclectic mixer), but the best one that I have found is a rod drying motor. You can find them in Jann’s Netcraft catalog for about $10.
Posted 01 February 2008 - 08:20 AM
Jann's got a lot of nice stuff, I am curious as to whether their online selection is as good as their catalogue...
Posted 01 February 2008 - 09:03 AM
The cheapest motor I saw on Jann's rod building site was way over $10. Am I looking in the wrong place?
Posted 01 February 2008 - 09:32 AM
Vodka is right,you should never leave a motor unattended,However,you should never leave the clothes dryer,oven,lead melting pot,glue gun,hot plate,unattended also.Does it happen..yes...try not to? Yes.Being a firefighter in NYC I know that accidents happen and seen first hand what could happen.Those of you that are looking for a drying motor that can be trusted pay attention...Flexcoat makes a drying motor for drying the epoxy on fishing rods.Its what i have and I leave it on overnight and have no problem sleeping.Wake up the next day and the motor is barely warm to the touch.
Posted 01 February 2008 - 10:21 AM
Kribman, Jann's on-line catalog is just a bit more comprehensive than their published catalog. They have a lot of good stuff. Also, Mud Hole, Stamina, and Barlows, to name a few, have good selections also. Check 'em all out.
Brave Viper, glad to hear that you're a firefighter. Retired from fire service after 30 yrs. svc. Best job I have ever had. Looks as though there are a lot of us on this forum. Best of luck to you, I know you work in one tough place. Proud of work you NY firefighters do.
Posted 01 February 2008 - 12:45 PM
That was nice capt. thank you.
Posted 01 February 2008 - 01:01 PM
Bravepiper. You have my respect too, for your chosen profession.
I take your point, that inevitably, people will leave appliances running unattended. I just feel a real need to mention it, because we are talking home made equipment, using motors and electricity possibly beyond its design parameters and with no real knowledge.
Posted 01 February 2008 - 02:10 PM
Bravepiper, where and what do you fish for in New York? There is a lot of fisheries, interested to see if your a salty of freshwater guy. And I also admire the work you do, seems like it takes a lot of guts.
Posted 01 February 2008 - 03:11 PM
Thanks for the kind words guys....I love what i do and wouldnt trade it.Im a 3rd generation FDNY member and yes I was there on 9/11.It is brutal,demanding work at times but it does leave me with time to make jigs etc.What was I sayin' oh yeah...The flexcoat drying motor is designed for what we need...When you start making motors and messing with electricity i thin your asking for trouble.
Posted 01 February 2008 - 03:18 PM
Kribman, My Mom spent her summers at her Summerhouse that was built by her grandfather in the 20's.We still have the place and it is near fantastic freshwater lakes and reservoirs in Putnam county.It got me started in freshwater fishing.My Dad grew up fishing on his fathers boat on the south shore of Long Island.My Grandfather and some other Firefighters bought a charter boat and used to take out clients when off-duty from captree State park.So there you go...I do it all...Or at least try to...