Paint removal without sanding?
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Posted 20 May 2008 - 06:56 PM
I've been searching the forums for some time now about this and can't find anything.
Is there a way to remove paint from lures without sanding? I want to keep details like scales and gill plates, and can't do that (or haven't figured out how) with a dremal tool or sand paper.
I would have to imagine that there is a product out there that can strip the topcoat and paint off of a lure fairly quickly.
Thanks for all the help!
Posted 20 May 2008 - 09:49 PM
You can use fingernail polish remover or a similar solvent but it's a messy messy job and takes awhile. If the solvent is too active (eg, acetone) it can melt the underlying plastic (and details). And every solvent I've tried that will remove finish will also cloud the lip. If the detail is important to you, I recommend dulling the existing shine on the bait with some 400 or 600 grit paper and painting over it. I hear, but haven't seen, that some repainting businesses use a blast cabinet to remove finish. It will dull the detail slightly but is probably the best compromise if you have one handy. So there's no magic paint remover that I'm aware of. If you find one, give a shout!
Posted 20 May 2008 - 10:05 PM
I would think some type of media blasting (sand, walnut shells, glass, plastic, etc.,) would work. You would really need to find a dealer who knows his product to find a speedy method for taking off top coat and color without loosing all the details.
I don't know what the minimum required equipment needed would be, but I'm surprised that a small pencil blast cabinet with foot pedal cost about $150.00. In order to make it a usable system, it looks like you would need to add a dust collection system about $175.00, media separator about $210.00.
There's my food for thought... Good luck.
Posted 21 May 2008 - 09:32 PM
Simply Green...... 2 to 4 weeks... Good luck!!! I heard motor oil will do it too and not hurt plastic.. but I have tried.....
Finger nail polish... DOESNT WORK!!! you will hurt your lure.. it will take the paint off but the detail is SHOT!!!
Rubbing Alcohol... The lip will crack or break off later.. it takes moisture out of the plastic.. dont know if plastic has moisture in it because Im not a chemist.. but it drys out the plastic so much it makes it weak and it will break!!!!
I put a lure in my wifes jewlery cleaner once... Thought the sonic vibs would stripe the paint... That didnt work!!! but hey I give myself a A for effort...
Then I found a hobby post online that said to use simply green to take paint off a model car.. it will not hurt the plastic.. The only down fall is you have to wait 2 to 4 weeks... I striped a vision 110 once with the simple green trick... mainly because the sucker sunk right out of the package.. it was a Mat Crackleback finish.. and Megabass had way too much paint on it.. so I knew I couldnt just scuff and paint it..... It already was screwed up.. so I soaked it for 3 long weeks in Simply Green and the paint came off by taking my finger nails too it... Its still a pain in the butt.. but it worked.. Sorry I dont have a super fast and super quick way to help you out.. Just keep checking it every week or so and see how its working out for you.. the good news is.. if is doesnt work it will not hurt your plastic or your bait.
Posted 24 May 2008 - 11:12 PM
Coke or Arm&Hammer? I thought you mite know the secret solution? I have seen pictures of a clear... yellowy substance but still know not thou name. Come to think of it..It looked more like a Corona. Maybe it was..no I won't go there.
Posted 24 May 2008 - 11:46 PM
Arm and Hammer is the ticket, search soda blasting on google and you will find a ton of info, alot safer than using silica blasting media and does not remove the surface detail!!
Posted 26 May 2008 - 08:26 PM
Wow..thanks! That is pretty cool. I had no idea that was going on. I might actually try it. Repaints are not high on my list but I am allways corking off on something!
Posted 26 May 2008 - 09:34 PM
Soda Blastin!!!! Wow Thanks Blackjack!! I will have to try it out!!!
Posted 27 May 2008 - 11:43 AM
If I want to strip a lure I've painted I just drop it in a jar of denatured alcohol. After a day or so the paint (if not already peeling) will peel right off. Maybe there is a catch but I haven't had any trouble with the lure coming a part or dissolving or anything like that. That's not to say it wouldn't. I have not tried this on store bought lures just ones I have painted myself and no longer liked.
Posted 27 May 2008 - 01:29 PM
Here is a totally unorthodox method, but it worked, See pg 2 for a look at a stripped version.
Posted 27 May 2008 - 01:45 PM
Well they do say heat helps to remove epoxy. Raging flames do it much quicker! Of course, I'd rather not melt my Lexan or circuitboard lip while flambe'ing a lure. But other than that, I'd do it in a heartbeat And you get that great camp fire smell as a bonus!
Posted 30 May 2008 - 09:31 PM
Pour brake fluid in a plastic container and leave the lure in for 1-2 days.
Posted 30 May 2008 - 09:52 PM
Brake fluid or brake cleaner?
Brake fluid, same as transmission fluid?
Sounds like a great tip, but I just want to make sure it is soaking in the right stuff.
Is this good for wood baits or just the plastics? Is it good for removing the factory paints?
Posted 30 May 2008 - 10:08 PM
Dot 3 brake fluid. I used to use it for my botched paint jobs on 1 /25 scale plastic model cars.
I haven't used it on wood, but am confident it would work. The paint I used to use was automotive sray paint. I now either paint over or use a heat gun, since I don't have the patience to wait anymore:lol:
Posted 05 June 2008 - 06:08 PM
Tried the brake fluid on a Strike King series 5 crankbait and just ruined it. I let the bait soak for 24 hrs. The plastic was real cloudy and the bill snapped off. Should've known better, sounded too good.
Posted 05 June 2008 - 08:11 PM
From what a fellow TU member confirmed to me, this method is currently being used in Japan as well. I will try it on one of my plastic musky lures and report back.
Posted 05 June 2008 - 09:22 PM
Brake fluid is only compatable with certain types of plastic, I know for sure that it does not work with Lucky Craft, Megabass, or any of the major U.S. Manufacturers, the brake fluid will certainly remove the paint but it will degrade the structural integrity of the lure and you can actually see fractures in the plastic. There is an answer to this problem but I can not reveal what it is as given to me by a well known Japanese lure craftsman. It is a chemical that can be purchased here in the U.S. Sorry I can't help you guys any further!
Posted 06 June 2008 - 09:33 PM
24 hrs ago, I decided to see for myself if in fact using brake fluid would have damaging effects to a plastic lure. In retrospect I should've tried it first and then posted the results...I apologize for that. In any case.......The lure I decided to use for this experiment was a HOMER LEBLANC jointed Swim Whizz. It had been painted over with enamel spray paint. The original color was black with copper scales and was clearcoated by the manufacturer.
Within 15 minutes, the topcoat started crackling and was easily removed using the paintbrush. I checked it again about three hours later and the brake fluid had started to loosen the original paint.
About half an hour ago I almost effortlessly removed all of the existing paint. I hope the pictures are clear enough to show the results. The lure does not show any sign of fatigue nor sign of corrosion left by the brake fluid or any discolororation. The seems are still intact.
blackjack has a valid point about the integrity of various plastics. I don't know where the Swim Whizz is manufactured but it didn't seem to get affected.
Sorry about your lure CRANKNTN......
Posted 06 June 2008 - 09:35 PM
Blackjack, I've seen you more than once on this site make claim to know how to do something but never fully explain how to do it. I became a member of this forum to learn and maybe teach others the mistakes I have made. I think it's safe to say the majority of members joined for the same reasons. I think if I knew how to help someone with something and knew I wasn't going to tell them how to do it, I probably wouldn't even comment on the subject.