swimbait , very first attempt
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Posted 23 June 2008 - 08:56 AM
I guess , that my swimbait blank has now dried sufficiently from the wood preserver dipping , so I treated the inside of the hinge bores with some special wood glue to protect them from water sepage !
The method for this was kindly described to me by mark poulson !
Thanks again , Mark:worship: !
After Mark's advice I made the bores about 0,5 mm larger than the diameter of the wire pin , so now I put this glue inside the bore , pushing and pulling it in from either side with a piece of wire same dia. as pin .
I repeated this operation for about five times , inbetween I'd always scrape off excess glue from the wire , also carefully cut away the glue drops created at the entries of the bores inside of the hinge slots .
Also removed wet glue from the countersunks at belly and the small grooves on back of lure .
After all this the wire pins almost don't have any loose play inside the bores anymore , this is evidence to me , that the inner walls of the bores have been covered with glue to seal them off !
This glue , mainly used for balsawood model making , sets pretty fast and cures to a very hard surface .
Finally I gently removed all cured excess glue from back groove and countersunk with the router bits , that I used to furnish these , this time only turned by hand !
I am still planing to utilize my two-component clear laquer for further sealing , this I will do when clearcoating the blank prior to the first bath tube testing !
This paint has about the thin consistency of superglue and would surely flow better through the bores as this glue is able to do:wink: !
Hahaha , I was tempted to use superglue as well , but this would have ended up in desaster , I suppose:huh: !
Greetz , Dieter
Posted 23 June 2008 - 09:45 AM
Looks like you've take my method, which was really an accumulation of everything I've learned here, to the next level. I'm learning from you now.
I can't wait to see a photo of that lure hanging from the mouth of a big pike!
Posted 23 June 2008 - 10:54 AM
@ mark poulson
Thanks a lot , Mark , I am also hoping on a pike these days , but things get along so slow about fishing in my area , it's not , as it used to be in past years .
Yesterday I have fished a canal in Hamburg city for almost three hours , whilst my wife went to a fleamarket nearby , only had two missed strikes .
These pike were not in a good mood , only attacked the lures half-hearted and didn't hook up , since the whole day was quite hot and stuffy , only for some heavy rains with some thunder to come down in the afternoon:boo: .
Friday night my wife and me were fishing for eel until one hour past midnight in a gravel pit in the rural area of Hamburg , not even a single nibble on our bait , after some strong rain the night temps have chilled down like in early fall season , there was fog on the water , such nails down the mouth of them !
Only caught a 8" perch on my new small copper/white/black scales "putty spoon" (check gallery) , as the sun went down that day , it's just frustrating (but I am happy , that these baits obviously do work ).
But anyway , I am hoping for late summer and fall to have better fishing , since that has ever been the best season for pike over here , but maybe , I am only fishing the wrong waters ?
But I think , that it has to do with the change of climate , always unusual weather these days .
But this bait would surely be finished by that time , if possible , I would weight it to sink at approx. 1 foot per second , to get down fast to 20 to 45 feet , even though I think , none of you in America would fish a swimbait that deep .
But I shall see in my bath tube tests , if such would be possible at all , if not , I'd weight it slow sinking and fish it in shallower waters !
Cheerio , Dieter
Posted 23 June 2008 - 11:03 AM
We've had a weird spring and summer start here, too. The water temps stayed in the low 60's farenheit up until a month ago, and didn't hit 70 degrees until two weeks ago. About a month behind. And for the last week it's been over 100 degrees during the day and up aroung 80 at night, so the water is warming fast. 1 degree in two day, up to 74 degrees now. I don't think the fish know quite what to make of it.
I caught a giant female bass yesterday afternoon, pitching a Yamamoto Ika tight and shallow next to a rock point. 8lbs 10oz. Unfortunately, she swallowed the hook, and fought so hard that she didn't survive.
When I cleaned and filleted her last night, I found she was full of eggs, ready to spawn againk, and had bird feathers in her stomach, a first for me.
I'd thrown my swimbaits in the early morning, and had a couple of followers, but not biters.
If she'd have hit a swimbait, she'd probably have survived and been released.
Posted 23 June 2008 - 12:34 PM
@ mark poulson
At least that bass would make up for a nice meal:wink:!
No need to feel bad about it !
Here in Germany we are also learning to release our fish more and more , though still some people take everything home , that they can get a hold of .
You can truly say , that we have some of the most ridiculous and stupid fishing restrictions of Europe , if not of the whole world:yes:!
After these restrictions releasing any legal sized fish is not allowed , according to it one MUST kill the fish caught and take it home to eat(or for the cat !)
On the other hand accidentally caught illegal sized fish must be released , but when hurt too bad to survive , these must be killed , chopped to pieces and thrown back into the lake:eek: !
As a consequence of this stupidity , you must get away from the lake , if you have caught and killed your restricted daily(or even weekly) limit of , say , two pike , or switch to another target species , that you never have caught your limit .
There are a lot , lot of more foolish restrictions to obey , but I don't want to burst up this thread with it .
You should consider yourself lucky , to be able to decide yourself to release a fish or not , or even keep it in a livewell(also illegal in many parts of my country) .
Here we are not , at least not without having to face a charge , when getting caught by police or fishery inspectors .
But still many of us constantly break these restrictions in that way , since to us fishermen it is clear to be seen , that only "catch and release" provides a sufficient stock of fish in our local waters , though we most likely still can't catch as many fish here as in our neighbor countries , since that "kill policy " is still too widely spread over here !
I was one of those as well , that obeyed the restrictions , but I am not doing it any more for years now , it's ridiculous to take a small pike of just 20" home for cooking , and also a zander(walleye) of 18" won't make up for a very large fillet , but these are the legal sizes in my area(these also differ locally) .
Greetz , diemai
Posted 23 June 2008 - 05:16 PM
I can sympathize with your plight.
You have to wonder about these bureaucrats sometimes, and some of the so called experts who craft rules and regulations. Most of the time, it's the people with the most political clout and their own agenda who fashion the rules, not the ones with the most knowledge of the subject.
Here in California, where we have an Austrian weight lifting actor as the Governor, a Federal administrator has decided that the State has to pay $7 billion dollars to improve the State Prison health care system. That's $7 billion for 170,000 prison inmates, while better than half of the general population of the State has no health care insurance, and the private and public hospitals are closing there doors due to lack of funds. And the State is projecting a $15 billion dollar deficit in their budget.
So inmates will have great health care, and taxpayers will go begging for health care, and can't find a hospital even if they can afford it.
Crazy. The inmates are running the asylum.
And common sense is an endangered species.
Posted 23 June 2008 - 06:07 PM
@ mark poulson
Not strange to me to hear this , Mr. Schwarzenegger is an European:wink: !
Over here it's similar , people that never achieved something positive for state and/or society , or even turned against these , get stuffed with benefits , since they are considered to be "poor underdogs" in terms of nowadays so-called "political correctness" .
Other people , that have worked and payed taxes , health,- and pension funds for a long time or even their entire life , are fobbed off with almost handouts , and still have to pay taxes on their pension money , extra fees on medication and health care , and so on........ !
First mentioned group doesn't , it's too unjust !
I strictly believe , that the German people are under the spell of a kind of a political mafia , that has forgotten or just doesn't care about the concerns of their citizens .
We are allowed to go to elections now and then , but otherwise they'd do , what they please , off course only for themselves or industrial lobbies , where many of them are involved in , but would not care for the common people (only if there is still a chance to rip them off for some more money) !
I can't call this democracy in it's real sense of the meaning .
In old Athens , hundreds of years before Christ , the founder of democracy , such politicians would have gotten kicked out of town by frequent public elections of all citizens for a year or two , so they could not do any harm to their people anymore:yay: !
But it is useless , to get mad about it , no one would listen and nothing would change !
Better go fishing , as long as we can , greetz , diemai
Edited by diemai, 23 June 2008 - 06:15 PM.
Posted 25 June 2008 - 07:23 AM
Alright , enough about:pissed: () politics now , let's get back to lure talk :
Few hours ago I glued in the hinge screweyes into my swimbait blank , the gratitude goes to mark poulson , for having explained to me , how to do that accurately (first set both eyes for proper spacing of sections , remove one eye and glue it in to use the second one as a depth reference) .
Also glued in the tow ,-and hook eyes .
This afternoon I am going to try on the fins , that I intend to make from bristles of larger painting brushes , I thought about using dark and lighter colored bristles together for a contrasting look .
I guess , that it was on a German site (or here on TU ?) , where I saw the bristles first stuck onto a piece of tape to create the entire fin in one piece to later glue it in place into its fitting groove (off course after having finished the final clearcoating) .
Well , I am eager to find out , how it would work out , but now I am hungry:popcorn: !
Cheerio , Dieter
Posted 25 June 2008 - 07:30 AM
Good luck with the painting and with the fins.
And good luck against Turkey.
Posted 25 June 2008 - 07:43 AM
Diemai. You could well have read it here, it was mentioned back in February and covered two weeks ago (thanks to JrHopkins). I have included the link so anyone can catch up with the tecnique.
That bait is looking so good.
Posted 25 June 2008 - 08:28 AM
Gee , totally forgot about that one , I even wrote a comment on it , thanks for reminding me !
@ mark poulson
Thanks a lot , it's gonna be a very exciting match , starts in about 5 hrs. 15 min . , shouldn't miss it !
The Turkish team are the underdogs , many of their top players are either hurt or suffer from penalties , I guess , there are not even enough players left to be able to make the legal three player exchanges during the match .
But never underestimate that team , their will to win is second to none and if one fights until the end , they are the ones !
Edited by diemai, 25 June 2008 - 08:30 AM.
Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:22 AM
I've booked a holiday tomorrow, would not miss this one. I worked in Germany in '96. That year England lost on penalties. The bar was a Turkish bar, I nearly stayed home. To my surprise, everyone was rootin' for England.
After the match, everyone gets in the car and promenades around the town, horns blaring (Have you any idea how annoying this is!). With the strong Turkish presence in Germany, the atmosphere is going to be awesome, just wish I was there (schwaebisch hall).
Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:53 AM
Hahaha , indeed I have an idea about the Turkish fans blocking up the roads , making a helluva noise with their cars and horns:lol: !
It was during the last world championships 2006 in Germany ,
the Turkish team had won a match , and my wife and I were cruising around the city of Hamburg that evening , looking for a place to do nightfishing for eel (yes , you can do that , even in the heart of the city !) .
Due to those soccer fans whe couldn't even go , where we wanted to and check for a good spot .
We got into a jam for a while , I was totally fed up:pissed: , so we drove out of town again to put out our baits in a more rural area !
As far , as I remember , we haven't caught that night:( !
Tonight it's gonna be the same in Hamburg , there is a very large fan party going on in the city , with expected tens of thousands visitors , German and Turkish alike !
But I am not going fishing there tonight:wink: !
Greetz , diemai
Posted 25 June 2008 - 12:38 PM
OK , I guess , for my first time the fin affair has turned out quite well so far:) .
As a reference about their shape I have first cut out simple templates of cardboard , these I used to sketch the outer shape of the fins onto some masking tape , that I stuck on my workbench with some other tape , sticky side upward .
This way I could better determine on how to lay the single bunches of bristles onto the tape .
Off course I had to bear in mind , that the base of the fins had to potrude over the tape a little more than the depth of the fitting grooves in the lure blank .
This did not turn out too well with the tailfin:( , since the tape got too close to the lureb lank , but I can still cope with that by lateron glueing it in very carefully .
First the base only , after remove tape and then glue the rest .
After all bristles were in place , I fixed them with a second strip of tape .
When finally glued in after the final topcoating , I'd off course trim those fins to proper shape .
I haven't used that many bristles , since I am a bit scared , that too many would have an effect on the lure action , I just don't have any experience with it !
Posted 25 June 2008 - 01:08 PM
Well , the tailfin was a bit more finacky to do , since it required little longer bristles , so I had to open up the smaller brush to gather them .
But finally everything turned out well , so I tried to fit in the taped fins into their grooves .
I found this almost impossible , since there would always be some bristles binding on the outside , so the whole thing didn't slide in properly !
And one can't use greater force on it , it would all get out of shape or even spoil entirely:( !
So I had the idea about fusing the bristles together at their base with my two-component glue .
Don't know , if this was described somewhere before ? If it was , I did not notice it !
In this case , please forgive me about saying that "I had the idea":huh: !
Anyway , I dipped the ends of the bristles into the mixed glue , the weakpoint about this is to bond them as flat as possible together .
To achieve this , I had to wait , until the glue started to set , because it's too liquid and sticky during the first minutes after mixing !
At this stage I tried to press the bristles flat together with my fingers , but the glue was already to hard and they sprung back to shape , so I quickly pressed the fin base flat in my vise , which helped a good deal .
But after curing more I found some spots still a little too thick to enter the slots , so I had to extend these for about almost one millimeter .
Anyway , don't think , that this matters too much , because the entire fin slot would be filled up with glue finally .
I really enjoyed this work , since it is a new challenge for me , my gratitude goes to all the guys here on TU , that provided their kind and generous assistance for me .
Now I am hoping , that things would continue to turn out reasonably well with my first swimbait , and that one day local pike would honour my work !
To be continued..........Dieter
Posted 25 June 2008 - 03:33 PM
Very nice...I'm sure glad I'm not a swimbait guy; that's waaaay to much work for me!
Posted 25 June 2008 - 03:44 PM
Congrats on what looks to be a successful fin installation.
And on the German team's victory.
Posted 25 June 2008 - 05:27 PM
@ mark poulson
Thanks , Mark:worship: , but to me (and I'm sure many others) it's a kind of bitter victory .
The Turkish team in many parts was the better one , but also it shows a certain pofessionality about the German team , that they did not miss too many chances in front of theTurkish goal to score , due to some well played counter attacks and passes (in fact they only had a few changes compared to their opponents:() .
Anyway , this match was nothing to brag about , not at all , just keep quiet in humility !
@ The Natural
Thanks for your kind words , but I don't consider myself to be one as well , I just thought , I'd pick up the challenge for once !
But trust me , if I'd get the first good fish nailed to it , I'd be in my workshop the next day and launch some more:wink: !
Greetz , Dieter
Posted 25 June 2008 - 06:44 PM
I don't know soccer from schmocker, but I know your team won. If they go all the way and win the championship, they will be the best team, plain and simple.
So, for you, I'm rooting for the German team.