What do you use?
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 08:22 PM
What do you use to have eyelets?? i know some use through wire construction but what about everyone else... Little eye screw the kind to hang things?
Posted 25 June 2008 - 08:32 PM
Some use screw eyes (chromed brass or stainless steel), others use hand wound stainless screw eyes. I go the hand wound route. You can buy screw eyes from Jann's Netcraft, Stamina, and other suppliers.
Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:44 PM
I shorten them by folding the legs back on themselves. Then drill the hole large enough to accomodate the extra diameter. The fold will never allow the cotter pin to pull out. BTW, I also use them to make the line tie in the lip.
Posted 26 June 2008 - 07:38 AM
Are you the one who gave me the tip about using egg sinkers with cotter pins through them for hook hangers? If so, thanks again. If not, what can I say? )
Posted 26 June 2008 - 10:35 AM
Here are two pics about homemade wire eyes , took them from magazine essays , that I wrote about two to three years ago(sorry , don't have a scanner/printer) .
I use 1,0mm dia. SST wire for these and glue them in thoroughly with two-component glue .
The coiled ones are a bit finacky to bend with the eye fixed in a vise , but to fix them into the lure is far easier and faster .
Tested these ones for pull out with fishing scales , the scales got spoiled at a pull force of 23 Kilograms (about 50 lbs) and the eyes didn't move out of the wood a single bit !
Greetz , diemai
Posted 26 June 2008 - 03:46 PM
thanks for the help, i wish i knew german but spanish is currently my second language study... i like the screw idea and the cotter pin idea....hmmm which to chose.
Posted 26 June 2008 - 04:52 PM
If you should have further questions , feel free to post here or drop a PM:yes: , I could give you some more hints about these , especially the working processes .
But why don't you get yourself the screweyes , that BobP mentioned here ? This is the easiest and fastest way to rig your lures .
I had to find this solution about those pictured wire eyelets , since we can hardly get such special lure eyescrews over here in Germany , only very few internet shops carry them recently , ordinary tackleshops not at all:( !
greetz , diemai
Posted 27 June 2008 - 11:09 PM
Being new to the game...I'm here to tell you Gene's idea is where it's at. I found using cotter pins was significantly easier than doing steel wire coiled over on itself (not even doing a through frame). Still much easier. I just finished several baits that are ready for paint, and I used a cotter pin through a tru-tungsten bullet weight for the belly ballast/hanger, and a cotter pin for the tail hanger as well. As Gene said, if you take a pair of pliers and bend the tip of the pin into a barb; it will dig in to the balsa if you try to pull it out. There is no way it's going anywhere. It made what I thought was going to be the more difficult part of the bait construction into a very simple procedure. Thank's Gene
Edited by The Natural, 27 June 2008 - 11:10 PM.
Posted 29 June 2008 - 10:00 PM
I don't remember any conversation about barrell weights. So, I don't believe it was me. Sorry.
Thanks for all of the compliments. The cotter pins have worked great fo me, too.
The following is a description of the pins that I use. I bought mine from McMaster-Carr. But, there are others that sell them.
Part Number: 98401A417
Price - $2.29 per Pack of 100
Material Type - Stainless Steel
Finish - Plain
Stainless Steel Type - 18-8 Stainless Steel
Diameter - 1/16"
Overall Length - 1"
Posted 29 June 2008 - 10:55 PM
one method I've used for baits made of pine, cedar, basswood and other semi-soft hard woods is bend a loop in SS wire but instead of twisting the wire just bend some 45 degree rabbit ears on the end of the wires. leave the tag ends long enough that they are forced to compress as you insert the wire into the hole drilled into the bait but short enough that when you try to pull the eye back out they grab into the wood and resist extraction. Fill the hole with epoxy push the wires in and you are set.
Posted 29 June 2008 - 11:13 PM
Here are some pics. I'm not sure if Gene does it exactly this way, but I just took the idea and ran with it. I just went to my local Home Depot and purchased a bunch of packs of cotter pins. I'm using the 3/4" long pins...
Here are some Tru-Tungsten bullet weights (ballasts) ready to be inserted and epoxied into the belly.
Here is the cotter pin for the tail section with the end bent into a barb. I drill a small hole, one smaller than the pin, and shove it in with pliers. You can't pull it out...an then I shoot epoxy down into the hole.