A Swimbait in the Making
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Posted 09 July 2008 - 05:23 PM
I think it's going to be fine. The tail section wiggles like crazy, and that's what you want. I've found that three piece lures kind of thrash from side to side, like a whip, and four piece swim like a snake.
Posted 10 July 2008 - 01:27 AM
To me, the action of your lure is very good. I am sure that it will perform better in a lake or river.
I think Diemai is right. More weight could result in a better action. But first, you have to test your lure in a larger surface of water.
Indeed, when mentionind wear and tear of the bead chain, I was thinking of the wear of the wire against the bead. But you made me thinking, and I came up with an idea: what if one would use swivels as joints? Which could be extended into the body using twisted wire, same way you made those T shaped wires?
This is just an example. They have a large selection here, I was amazed to see the choices you have. I am happy if I can find 2 or 3 types of China made swivels. They even have chain beads, and taking into consideration their prices, I think these must be very strong. Turn on the pages to see them all:
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 02:37 AM
Forgot to say something.
I recommend that before glueing everything with Devcon 2T, you dry the segments.
For through wire crankbaits, I use the toothpick method to stick together the 2 parts for the shaping and sanding process.
But I don't use screws to keep the 2 halves together after glueing. I just wrap the lure all around with non slippery string.
Posted 10 July 2008 - 04:05 AM
Only used the screws , because I chose local pinewood for those lures , it has a quite tough brown grain , so I needed a stronger force to press the halves together for the 1mm dia. wire harness to trace a sufficient indention , that I could extend with my "Dremel" for a snug fit of the two inner planes of wood .
On softer woods and with thinner wire off course screws would not be neccessary to achieve such indention , the harness would also be pressed into the wood just by tight wrapping or taping around the outside .
Greetz , Dieter
Posted 10 July 2008 - 01:21 PM
glued the head together with epoxy this morning. i will probably be able to glue the mid secion in about an hour and 15 minutes.
i have the weights how i like them. i really didnt care what kind of sink rate the lure had, my only requirement was that it swam, but i wanted a surface swimmer and i am glad that is what i got. sad thing is i dont have a rod capable of casting this lure i think i am going to buy a cheap 25 dollar rod that casts lures 1-4 oz from bass pro shops just to toss swimbaits every so often.
now i just gotta figure out what to do for paint!
i had developed an awesome method of painting with acrylic paints so that i could blend them and make them really neat looking, but it only works on bare wood, not polyurethane. so now im gonna have to experiment with a piece of test wood covered in polyurethane and see what i can come up with.
i attached a pic of a rainbow trout i did with acrylics using my other method which only works on bare wood.
Posted 10 July 2008 - 02:55 PM
Hopefully you'd find a way to put on that paint style onto your new swimbait , that trout pattern looks cool , very nice brush job:yes:!
Maybe you'd need some sort of primer , that adheres to the polyurethane and acrylic paint alike .
I haven't worked with that sealer before , so I can't give you any advice:huh: !
So it seems , that your lure turned out for you exactly the way , that you've planned , that is great:yay: !
I wish , such would also happen to me frequently , but since I always think of new , different and sometimes little weird designs , I sometimes have to face disappointment:huh:!
Greetz , Dieter
Posted 10 July 2008 - 03:38 PM
here is what i came up with. i know its sloppy because i was experimenting with colors. im gonna use this piantjob but it will be much neater when its on the lure:
Posted 10 July 2008 - 03:49 PM
Sorry , but does that mean , that it would work on the polyurethane , or you just tried your coloration only ?
Posted 10 July 2008 - 03:53 PM
I agree. The trout scheme looks great.
One thing I'd recommend.
I use Krylon rattle can white primer (thanks Nathan) over my waterproofing, after I've scuff sanded the waterproofing, and my water based paint sticks to that fine. A white undercoater also enhances the colors of the paint that goes over it, so they cover better with less paint, and the colors are more true.
Posted 10 July 2008 - 05:23 PM
yes, i coated that piece of scrap wood in polyurethane before i painted on it.
Posted 10 July 2008 - 05:42 PM
So you're ready to go after all section halves are glued together !
Good Success:yay: !
Posted 10 July 2008 - 07:00 PM
yep. they are all epoxied together now and they have past the handling time (2hrs) but they won't reach full strength untill 8hrs after application.
in about an hour or so i will paint the lure and take pics for you guys!
Posted 11 July 2008 - 12:24 AM
well here is the paint. i still have to paint the head, the inside of the joints, and the entire back side. turned out a little bit darker than i would have liked but i am pleased that i didnt make it look totally rediculous.
Posted 11 July 2008 - 01:25 AM
I can only say , that you are fast as lightning in procceding your new bait:yes: !
And I strictly believe , that darker colors are better for topwater baits , since the probably cast a better silhouette against the sky for the fish to see from below:yes: !
Can't wait too see it finished !
Posted 11 July 2008 - 05:19 PM
i have the other side painted. still need to paint inside the joints.
i really dont know what im going to do with the head. i guess i'll just fade it black to blue to white like the rest of the body. and use black to make the details more pronounced.
i call the color: midnight shad
Posted 11 July 2008 - 09:39 PM
well i got all the paint done. i wanted 3-D eyes but didnt have any so it was time to improvise!
i painted a black dot on a piece of aluminum foil and then put a blob of hot glue over it. when the hot glue cooled, it hazed over, which was neat because now it is reflective and hazy, just like a real fish eye.
i am pleased with the results
tomorrow morning it gets epoxy!
Posted 11 July 2008 - 09:53 PM
I have to say the eye looks VERY realistic. I sure hope my first swim bait turns out this good, and this quick. I have to remodel my basement before doing another lure so I am hoping to get started around December. Until then I will continue to "go to school" on all of the TU members successes and defeats.
Posted 11 July 2008 - 11:09 PM
thanks ferg. i was very pleased with the way these eyes turned out. before i made them i considered how hotglue hazes over when its cool, but i decided to go ahead and test out the hot glue idea anyway, and it turned out to work great! cheap, easy 3-D eyes! the most difficult part was centering the pupil in the eye.
Posted 12 July 2008 - 04:33 AM
Very clever idea, well executed! You must be related to Pete (Hazmail). You both think outside the box!
The epoxy topcoat may make the eye more clear. I can't wait to see the finished lure, and hear how it fishes!