have you ever used this to seal wood baits?
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Posted 11 September 2008 - 09:26 AM
i met a guy online who i was going to use to airbrush my swimbaits he said to seal the wood to use virgin laquar thinner and put solo plastic cups in it stir it till they disolve and the mixter is like whole milk then dip my parts in it for 5-10 min and that you get a real nice plastic coat on the wood that actually seeps into the wood sealing it better
has anyone ever tried this?
Posted 11 September 2008 - 10:26 AM
There have been many posts about this subject actually. Try searching for plastic dipping or something similar with the search function.
If you want some really good first hand information about doing it right and want the proper stuff, contact Swede here on the website. He'll hook you up.
Posted 11 September 2008 - 12:07 PM
ive searched but i dont see any instructions on mixture, dipping time, and dry time any help would be great
Posted 11 September 2008 - 01:14 PM
Here's what Swede had sent to me for how to use his Proprionate pellets...
Mix 1bag with 1 liter of acetone & thin it to milk like consistency
You can thin the one with least pellets in 1 liter too for first dip to penetrate deeper when soaking the lure.
Wait one day before painting after last sealer dip.
1. Get 3 glass jars with lid i use olive jars bout 6" high & 3" in diameter .or bigger to fit your bait sizes
2. Get a glass sheet in dim 1ftX2-3ft for drip protection for placing under baits during drying.
3. Make a hanger for baits to dry on
4. Make S shaped bait holders for use as hangers on baits
5. Get 150g of Probionate.
6. Get 1 liter=2 pints ofAcetone
7. Put 90 g Probionate in 1 of the jars fill up with Thinner /Acetone to 1" under lid
8. Shake the jars to solve Probionate approx ½hr or stir with metal pipe until all of plastic is dissolved .
9. I prefer my prop as thin as milk for the dips evens out better &cures harder &faster
10.Have your baits attached with the hangers start dip in thin solution for at least 3 times to close cells in wood let dry 15mins between each dip if you place your lure in the solution with the lid on & let the lure soak in a lot you’ll get deeper penetration of the plastic sealer
11. Switch jar & dip with head of bait first 3 times allow baits to dry at least 15 mins between dips turn direction & dip tail first 3 times turn again dip 4 times
12. Paint with water based colors or Lacquers in the pattern you like & paint or place eyes
13. Heat set your paint with a hairdryer till its completely dry
14. Dip in Probionate again up to 10-15 times depending on how thick you want the topcoat if your prop turns whitish on the first dips try a dip in pure thinner just a quick dip
15. Cut out slot for bib & glue in place
Posted 11 September 2008 - 01:43 PM
I use propionate-baced lacque also for my lures but only before painting.
I let my lures me on very thin lacque ca 24 hours. Then I let them dry one week and put weights to the belly and fill the weighthing holes.
After that I dip my lures several times firts in clear and after that white lacque and I let them dry (at least) another week.
All that because aceton evaporate a long time after the lacque felt "dry".
After painting I use one component, urethane based, concrete lacque.
Great stuff, don't burn or make paints flow and gives very hard cover to my lures.
Posted 11 September 2008 - 03:26 PM
Mix your batch til it´s like milk in consistancy .
Dip and let dry atleast 30 minutes ,dip again let dry 20 minutes
then follow the instructions Snax posted til you got a surface you are satisfied with .Remember that with the cups/kitchenware it might crack while its drying/curing
Posted 11 September 2008 - 03:44 PM
Good point jio, I have found that prop really does take a long time to set properly, it dries in minutes but sets in days.
Posted 12 September 2008 - 12:47 PM
I have had the solo cup / plasticware mixture crack many times on me. Since changing to the prop mixture this problem was greatly reduced.
I used the last of my solo cup mixture to seal a plywood divider that prevents my takle trays from spilling into the bilge on my boat. within a few weeks time the plywood and mixture had as many cracks as if I put nothing at all on it.
Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:28 PM
Get the idea yet that there are lots of ways to do it? Yep. I seal mine with a 50/50 mixture of Devcon Two Ton epoxy and denatured alcohol, brushed onto the lure. Buy Devcon Two Ton in a 30 ML double syringe at most Walmarts for $2. Mix the epoxy first, then stir in the solvent.