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Posted 06 November 2008 - 06:01 PM
My airbrush compressor is small, has no air tank and cuts on whenever I pull the trigger on the airbrush. If I lived in an apartment, it would surely not disturb the neighbors but if my wife were sleeping, I'd probably end up with a few extra dents in my head. There are models advertised as quiet units (e.g. Silentaire for one) but they are quite expensive. Yet another option - I read here on the site awhile back that someone was using a tank of compressed CO2 on his airbrush. A moderate size tank should last for a long time and the gas is perfectly dry. It might be a good option for truly silent painting depending on the cost of refilling the tank and the cost of the tank itself.
Posted 06 November 2008 - 06:08 PM
Deiter - On Paint, I am with Mark, and use water based acrylics, just about exclusivly (and some Tamiya). I buy good quality artists paints (various, in tubes @ about $5), and have had some liquitex for 30 years - a tube lasts forever. Just squeeze a bit out and mix a little water or better still 'Windex' (window cleaner) and you can make any colour you like and store excess in a film container.
I figure if a the paintings last a hundred years, I would have little problem with a lure - just make sure they are good quality, which will have nice fine pigments, and good solid colours, you DO get what you pay for. pete
Posted 06 November 2008 - 07:02 PM
Thank you guys for your further advice , obviously it seems , that small , low-noise compressors are either expensive or of poor performance .
I won't like waiting during brushing on longer shots until sufficient pressure would build up again , and if it was only for seconds .
I remember to have seen a book on airbrushing in our local public library long time ago , guess I'll get back there checking it out again:yes: .
Seems , that there are bigger difficulties to consider than just the cleaning problem that I always have assumed to be the worst:? .
The CO2 caskets are also an option for me , but this again stands and falls with their refill price and/or local availability .
And Mark , don't think , I could trick her this way , she'd surely be suspecting something if I'd voluntarily suggest to do a different hobby work at home but luremaking , lol:huh: !
Thank ya' all , Dieter
Edited by diemai, 06 November 2008 - 07:04 PM.
Posted 09 November 2008 - 02:23 AM
Jeep one thing you should think about before you start buying stuff is how serious you are about lure building. If your only going to build a few lures once in a blue moon get the rattle cans or a few bottles of model paint and some brushes. If your sure your going to get serious or i should say addicted to this craft then you should bite the bullet and go airbrush and waterbased paint. Why do i say this you ask i say this from my own experiences trial and error$$$. First i bought model paint and brushes but didn,t like the results so i bought a cheap airbrush,that improved my painting, that is until the solvents in the paint ruined the seals in the brush. Next it was hobby acrylics (you know the stuff, 12oz for a buck ) the stuff i bought would of plugged a 2" fire hose. What i,m getting at is i,ve got a bunch of stuff here that,s drying up and collecting dust because i tried to save a buck.Get it right the first time and you,ll end up saving money and building better lures alot sooner. Read the thread where NBI Marketing is offering TU members a 35% discount on brushes looks like a good deal to me,buy some decent airbrush paint i use Createx and DR PH Martins mostly, but the guys on here all have they,re own favorites.As far as a compressor goes well i don,t know what to say it can be a rather large expense unless you shop for a used one, i did read somewhere that you could use a airpig but don,t know how that would work out or howlong it would last between fill ups but would be cheaper than the cans of compressed air.Most importantly is start reading the threads on TU the guys here are the cream of the crop when it comes to lure building. Just my opinion about what i did wrong for myself thought i,d share that you.
Take Care Jimbo
Posted 10 November 2008 - 06:00 PM
Accidentally got to the hobby deparment of a big store in Hamburg today , so I've checked out a bit about airbrushing in there .
There was a "beginners complete set" by Revell , for plastic model painting , containing a spray gun , a comprimed air can , some paints and accessories , at about 90 € (present exchange rate 1€ makes about 1,28$) .
This thing didn't look very trustful to me , hence one has to screw the special Revell paint containers under the gun , so one would be very limited with it concerning different paints , also the gun itself did not appear to be very versatile .
They also had two different compressors in there , one smaller one at about 100€ , 3 Bar pressure and 57 dB noise emission .
The larger one , meant for already experienced people(as stated on box) was about 200€ , but has a max. pressure of 5,5 Bar and only 50 dB noise emission .
Their comprimed air cans there were 12,50€ per one , but sold out , so I can't tell about their described performance .
Couldn't check more thoroughly , since my wife called me to come and fetch her .
But when getting a seemingly good compressor for the price of only 16 cans of comprimed air , my decision would be clear , those 16 would never take you as far as the compressor , I guess ?
I didn't have a clue about the strength of the noise emission , so I just googled it and got to a German page indicating that 40 dB would be the noise in a room with its windows closed to keep out the bruise from outside , and 60 dB would be a normal conversation held by only two people !
So these compressors don't seem to be as loud as I thought ?
So well , I guess , when having to buy all gear from zero , I would end up with about 350€ to 450€ for a good compressor , one or two decent guns , paints and accessories ?
Probably I might get the stuff a bit cheaper elsewhere , but I must admit , that it's over my budget right now , and I am already going to turn 47 years soon , Santa Claus won't come to me anymore , lol !
Greetz , diemai
Posted 06 December 2008 - 04:43 PM
I am new to making fishing lures. I have managed to make and paint my own lures, but I am struggling with the finishing? I haven't managed to find the right product to seal and finish with. I was hoping for a dip in product to finish with. Please advise.
Posted 06 December 2008 - 06:56 PM
I assume , that your location is Essex/England , so many of those topcoating products mentioned here on TU might be hardly available in Europe , I only know about "Envirotex" , since many Dutch and Belgian luremakers are using it .
Also know about Finnish builders using clear concrete lacquer to dip their baits in about 6 to 8 times , haven't used it myself , but got some swapped jerkbaits finished that way , and I can tell , that these have a rock-hard surface !
I use simple epoxy and two-component lacquer , that I purchase from a German tackle component supplier .
I would advise you , to utilize the SEARCH FUNCTION here on TU , there are a lot of infos on topcoating around here , for suppliers worldwide you may check a list up at Lure Fishing UK , on their startpage click on "links"(yellow lure symbol) , there are a lot of shops listed there .
I haven't thoroughly checked British shop links there , but I have seen , that Dutch and one or two German component/lure shops listed carry at least "Envirotex" . Some have sites with English language option !
good luck , diemai
Edited by diemai, 06 December 2008 - 07:00 PM.