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Hard baits are kinda fun
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 06:15 AM
I am actualy having a little fun making baits again. Got burnt out on soft baits so I figured I would make some hard ones. Hard baits are easy and fun to make, at least for now
Posted 27 November 2008 - 06:28 AM
Hey Matt, your hardbaits are really top notch. I know they are going to be a big hit. They have inspired me to make some bluegill baits of my own. They are very similar to yours, but are larger and not quite the detail of yours. I just don't have the patience for it. Congrats on a fantastic product.
Posted 27 November 2008 - 06:29 AM
Nice job Mattlures.
What material did you cast the bodies with?
I'm guessing RTV for the mold, with that ventral fin arrangement.
The original has incredible detail.
I can't tell if it is painted of photo finish. What ever it is, it is impressive.
What made you go with the lip on the last one?
How do they swim?
Posted 27 November 2008 - 08:43 AM
Absolutely incredible Matt!!!! I have so many questions!
It looks like you you molded them from an actual fish! Do you hand carve the bodies from wood before creating a mold?
Posted 27 November 2008 - 10:24 AM
I've got a bunch of your soft baits, they are just killer. I was kind of wondering if you were ever going to play around with hard baits...wonder no more Awesome job!
Did you actually hand carve all the scales on the master?
Posted 27 November 2008 - 07:29 PM
Looks amazing...so when are they for sale? I keep checking your site and all i get is coming soon lol
Posted 27 November 2008 - 10:07 PM
Thanks guys. They are of course painted. No photo finish. You cant get the reflective pearls and depth with photo finishing. Plus it would be difficult to wrap the photo around all the conteurs.The baits are made from my own custom mix of resins. The original is all hand carved. If you have ever tried to mold a real fish, especialy a small one you would quickly realize, you loose most of the detail. Yes I did each scale by hand. It takes forever but You only have to make 1 perfect master. I put the bill on one just for something different. They come in floating, sinking, and a billed floater. The action is different in the 2 floaters but I havent decided which one I like best. For now they are all availible but I will probably discontinue the billed bait because its a little harder to make.
I do use silicone molds but they suck. I can only get about 20 pieces per mold. I have to keep making new molds. The molds are also very complex so it makes it more of a pain. It is fun for now though. I have a bunch of new hard baits I am working on.
Posted 27 November 2008 - 10:12 PM
I sold out of some of the colors right away but I do have some left. I dont think I am supossed to say how much, where, when etc. I think that would be spamming . If you look they are easy to find
Posted 28 November 2008 - 02:59 AM
What an effort.......but such a great , unbeliveable realistic result ! It's kinda magic:yes: ! Hats off to you !
Greetz:yay: , diemai
Posted 28 November 2008 - 08:08 AM
JMHO, but you could save yourself a lot of work and time by making a "Mother Mold" out of Plaster of Paris.
Posted 28 November 2008 - 10:13 AM
Matt those are INCREDIBLE lures! You NAILED the color patterns also!
Matt I am suprised that you can only get 20 or so lures from the RTV mold. Is the expansion of the microballons stressing the mold?
Or are the fine details of the mold wearing out?
Edited by Tigger, 28 November 2008 - 10:15 AM.
Posted 28 November 2008 - 02:47 PM
Plaster of Paris would not work for any part of the process I use. I have masters but the mold need to be continualy remade. No stressing of the molds, but a breakdown in the silicone do to the resins. A smooth casting with no undercts is not very damaging to silicone. A bait that is entirely covered in detail and undercuts will wear out silicone realy fast. I have a few ideas that should double the amout of pieces I get from my molds but I will still need to replace them.
Posted 28 November 2008 - 03:19 PM
Out of curiosity, which Resin are you using? My Smooth-on, 28 Shore molds have stood up to many more castings than 20, casting Shopmaninc.coms Urethane Resin.
When I said " Mother Mold" I meant a Plaster of Paris mold of your Silicone mold. Just Box in a mold half, Cavity up, and fill it with Plaster of Paris. When it cures, you can pour your silicone into it and you'll have an exact duplicate of the original. Just be sure to use a light glossy coat on the Plaster of Paris mold before casting the silicone.
Here are a batch of Candy molds I made, the orange casting was used for the master. You can see part of the master @ the upper left.
Edited by Husky, 28 November 2008 - 03:30 PM.
Posted 28 November 2008 - 09:30 PM
Husky I know that the guys making similar baits have about the same life in thier molds that I am getting. I am using a platinum cure Sil from smooth on. I think its smooth sill. As far as mother molds go, unfortunatly on this particular style of molds I cant make a normal mother mold. I have kinda of partial mother molds. The molds are complicated but effecient. I will try other resins but I am satisfied with my blend. I wish I could mother mold them, Then it would be easy and fast. I apreciate the suggestions though. In most situations a mother mold would make great sence.
Posted 28 November 2008 - 09:44 PM
All I can say is wow. Now those are some bluegill baits. Not only some of the best details on a mold I've ever seen, but some of the wildest paint schemes out there. Amazing work.
Posted 30 November 2008 - 12:12 PM
I agree. Absolutely amazing, both the carving, and the paint schemes.
Posted 02 December 2008 - 08:10 PM
Those are wicked looking lures, exceptional crafting.
Posted 02 December 2008 - 08:15 PM
Back to the drawing board I go! :censored:lol
Those raised the bar yet again!!!