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Posted 29 November 2008 - 01:26 AM
I recently uploaded two 2 jerk/glide baits, in the gallery. Despite their good showing in the bath tub, when actually fishing these, I found because of the top curve and the eye location on the lure , they were not gliding too well in fact they were 'rocking horsing' through the water when jerked they would plane a little and then dive.
Following on from a post of an old lure I made with 2 lips, which described how well it glided, I thought to counteract the dive, I would try this principle on these 2 lures, and see if it rectified the problem.
OLD 2 LIPPED LURE
I just punched out a piece of plastic (blister pack), and super glued the disc on the rear, just above the rear hook hanger, heated it with a heat gun, and after a few tests came up with what appears to be the right angle which was, in this case, with the lip parallel to the base of the lure. It now 'jerks' horizontal through the water (in the tub) and looks pretty good, so now I will punch out some thin Lexan and glue it in permanently.
Try it, this may turn nothing into something. pete
Posted 29 November 2008 - 02:31 AM
Hi , Pete ,
When I first saw this lure in a catalog some years ago , I have wondered about the purpose of that rear fin ?
It can't cause the lure to dive , since its not adjustable nor having an downward angle(like a "Suick") .
So , when I finally got myself internet access almost one year ago , it was one of the first things that I googled for and I found this :
River Run Muskie Fishing Tackle and Musky Baits and Northern Pike Lures
When watching that unbelievable gliding action in the video there , it suddenly was clear to me , what that rear lip is for(in my personal theory , lol:lol:) !
It stabilizes the lure against sideward roll on every jerk , which would use up a part of the energy of a jerk , instead of putting all of that force into a forward movement .
Thus it also acts like a guide fin , it just helps the lure to keep level swimming position , not only balanced by its belly weights .
greetz , Dieter
Posted 29 November 2008 - 02:45 AM
The extreme curvature along the back of the lure is acting like the curved surface of an aircraft wing, giving the body lift. This causes the lure to point down and dive.
Good solution Pete.
I experimented with a body with the curvature on the bottom. The same thing happened in reverse. It just hit the surface and stayed there.
Posted 02 December 2008 - 04:55 AM
diemai - just got back to this thread, thanks for that address and video, just shows there is nothing new under the sun!! They sure have a good action .Pete
Posted 02 December 2008 - 10:24 AM
You got it diemai!! I've been making a similar glidebait for a few months now that uses the same type of rear lip for stability purposes. I've been experimenting with the shape of the rear lip and seem to have similar results with a square vs. a round style lip.
Posted 02 December 2008 - 03:57 PM
FishPA, what I really think you meant to say was 'you got it Hazmail'.
It may seem that everything has already been discovered, but it is not so. This is my experience, so please, continue to innovate and dazzle us all. Hazmail, a true innovator.
Posted 02 December 2008 - 05:47 PM
Hahaha , certainly the merits are not on myself , but Pete , for sure:yes: !
But thanks for your input about the rear lip shapes and the picture of your lure , anyway;) .
I can truly say , that being inspired by Pete and his thread here , it really urges me to get my lathe turning ...........but "unfortunately" I am currently working on assembling and afterwards painting a bunch of about 20 wooden baits , and I just can't afford having any wood dust in my little workshop right now(at least not blown around , the sediment on the floor shouldn't matter:huh: !)
Also got another idea idling around my mind , since I am involved into this thread............how about putting such a fin at the head of a jerkbait ?
Made of metal , with a rounded slot as a linetie at its tip .
Made some brief sketches at my work today , but just can't have my lathe working right now...........!
Greetz , diemai
Edited by diemai, 02 December 2008 - 05:49 PM.
Posted 02 December 2008 - 06:32 PM
Pete if you lurk around on some of the musky sites these rear lipped baits are out there. I own a few Mantas just like in the video and few others that work well. I myself have thought I made a brake through in lure building only to find that it was already done 50 years ago. go figure.......