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Posted 19 December 2008 - 09:42 AM
I agree about line size. Typically, I throw 8lb flouro for smaller jerkbaits, cranks, plastic worms, and flukes. I use 12lb flouro for jigs and Ikas, which are a Yamamoto finese jig plastic.
And for topwater, walking lures, I use 30lb braid with a leader of 17lb mono to keep the line from fouling the hooks.
I use 50lb braid for spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, which are both reaction baits that move so fast I don't think the fish really "see" the line, and for deep spooning, so I can get an immediate hooset, and bend a snagged hook if need be.
I go down to 4lb flouro for throwing 1/16oz. dart heads and tiny plastics to boiling fish, but that's the only really light line I use, and it's in open water.
Flourocarbon line has changed the way I fish. It is supposed to be "invisible", with almost the same degree of light refraction as water, so I'm able to use heavier line for worming than I used to with mono. So I can use baitcasting reels for everything I throw except the 4lb. stuff. And it's low stretch, so I can feel a tick even on a slack line.
I use big mono for big lures like swimbaits and surface gliders for two reasons. First, it's buoyant, so it stays up and doesn't drag the gliders down or inhibit their action. And second, because casting a 4-6oz. lure puts a lot of strain on the line that's dropped down from the rod tip to the lure at the start of the cast. The big mono is strong enough not to snap from the load of casting, and has enough stretch to allow a little margin of error, like occasionally forgetting to hit the spool release. Plus, even though it's "rope", it's still more managable than flourocarbon of the same strength rating.
Sooo......that's my story, and I'm sticking to it!
Posted 19 December 2008 - 03:01 PM
@ mark poulson
at first glance your line choice , that I have considered a "rope" , looked really thick to me , but after your explanations I really see sense in using it for those big swimbaits .
Just remember to have lost a couple of lures years ago(most likely spoons and plastic shads , but also sinking jerkbaits)because of an improper reel(was a quality brand) , that would shut close its bail ocassionally on a powerful cast !!!!!
It was too much of a good thing , the rotor of it turned so smoothely , that it hit the closure notch for the bail sometimes !
If I think over it , if I would have been geared with your own choice of line instead of my thinner braid , I would still have all of these lures:huh: !
But seeing the sheer digits like 17 or 25 just put me off , I still have a handful of line spools like that in my basement , ordered them from the US years ago , didn't have an idea about their thickness , since over here we measure our line after metric thickness , not pound test .
So well , if my memory serves me right(have a conversion card in my basement by now) , a 17 lbs. test mono would be well over 0,40 mm metric diameter .
This is , what I would use for deadbaiting a 50" pike , if I knew , where to find one , lol:huh: !
Got only two rods/reels spooled with this thick line , using it exclusively for fishing real big eel(very poor casting with float set-ups) , since you can't afford to play with these , once they are hooked , just gotta toss 'em out as fast as possible .
Really seems, that in Europe we probably go a bit thinner concerning line diameter as you do in the States !
Thanks for your explanations !
greetz , Dieter
Posted 19 December 2008 - 08:15 PM
My therory is if you dont loose a bait once and a while your not fishing tight enough.I dont loose one all the time, very rare, but if it wasnt for my lure retrievier I would be in trouble. I carry three different types of lure retrievers and one will usually get the plug loose. But on another note my dad is 78 years old and still musky fishes with me and you want to talk about loosing plugs. my dad gets upset but Im just glad he still with me and he can loose every lure in my box ,I dont care. I just tell him dont worry I will make another one. Lord knows how many of his I lost when I was little.
Posted 19 December 2008 - 08:18 PM
You've got the right attitude, Jamie. Enjoy you time with him, and keep building memories.
Happy Holidays to him and to you.
Posted 19 December 2008 - 09:32 PM
How's this for losing a custom. I go to a resort evey year to fish for trophy bass and pike. I made the sweetest holographic 3oz spinner you'd ever see. Ultimate detail on that little head with scaling, gill marks, etc. Top notch polished willows, bearing swivels, the works. Very first cast after pitching 1/2-1oz'ers back home...... backlash! Got good distance on that cast. Too bad the line broke. Cheap loss, but painful. LOL
Posted 19 December 2008 - 10:21 PM
I have a story similar to that of Downriver Tackle.
I made a highly carved musky bait and spend a lot of time detailing the paint, adding four types of scaling, razor thin gill highlights, and put on a finish that I figured would last several lifetimes.
I clipped it on and began trolling. Didn't go 50 yards and snagged it (hopelessly) on a well-submerged nylon anchor rope.
Probably got to use it for a total of three minutes after pulling it out of the tackle box.
But...I have a lure retriever that has saved my partner and me many, many baits, perhaps several hundred, from sleeping with the fishes. So I can't complain I guess.