Looks that simple the Finnish way !
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Posted 25 January 2009 - 09:05 AM
Someone has posted these videos part 1+2 on a German luremaking site .
Looks very interesting to me , especially the foiling between two sponges and the glitter plating in a glass jar .
Guess , that I even own a lure made by this guy , swapped with Finnish friends , since it looks much like one hanging in his drying rack .
Part 1 :
YouTube - Making Wobblers by hand Part 1
Part 2 :
YouTube - Making Wobblers by hand Part 2
Enjoy:) ! greetz , diemai
Posted 25 January 2009 - 09:29 AM
Pretty cool... I wonder how many times he has cut his fingers..
Posted 26 January 2009 - 02:51 AM
I have watched the videos without sound. Maybe the answer of my question is already there. Anyway, do you know what type of wood he uses? It looks more like cheese to me. I wonder what we would need things like scroll saws, band saws, disc/belt/drum sanders for?
I liked the way he made the lipslot. There's lot of literature on this forum about how to cut the lip slot, how to make jigs to this end, etc.
Posted 26 January 2009 - 03:01 AM
Pretty sure I heard him say balsa.
Edited by jameso321, 26 January 2009 - 03:21 AM.
Posted 26 January 2009 - 03:04 AM
I don't have sound to it either , but the way the wood looks and acts when cutting it , I am 100% sure , that it is medium dense balsa , all of the homemade Finnish lures , that I have swapped with guys from over there , are made of it , anyway .
I am also amazed about the simplicity of the working process , and luckily I own a few results of that , you probably could already call it folk art , Finnish lurecarving .
greetz , diemai
Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:03 AM
These are great videos, diemai, thank you for posting them. The simplicity is inspiring, especially the knife work.
Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:57 AM
Diemai, Those are inspiring. I also heard the word Balsa. It was the only word I understood. I liked the slotted belly and the way he thru wired.
Posted 26 January 2009 - 08:10 PM
diemai-thanks for those videos, no problem not having sound, because you would not be able to understand him, the camera man sounded Scottish, or some English dialect, but I could not understand him either. He makes it look so easy, why is it I always make it seem so hard???? pete
Posted 27 January 2009 - 02:24 AM
It says the first video is no longer available..............
Posted 27 January 2009 - 02:33 AM
Do you mean , that you can't get the video ?
Just tried it again with above links , it works for me !
greetz:yay: , diemai
Posted 28 January 2009 - 11:07 AM
It is balsa. Other very popular lurebuilding wood here (for cranks) is apache (sorry, don't know for sure does I wrote it right), which is a bit harder than balsa. I like it more.
Posted 28 January 2009 - 01:04 PM
I really like the glitter technique (really simple, too). Only thing about it that I haven't quite wrapped my head around is it appears, at least to me, that he dips in propionate, then does the glitter coat. But the acetone/lacquer thinner in a propionate dip damage the glitter? Is it a special kind of glitter, or is he dipping in something else?
I am finding his prop dip into primer dip interesting as well; anyone else do something like that?
Posted 28 January 2009 - 02:47 PM
Those are some sweet videos, I always find it fascinating to watch others lure makers at work.
Does anyone know what kind of tool he is using to cut the slot in for the through-wire? I'm going to be building some through wire baits soon and that looks like a good idea to me! I guess I could use a thin hacksaw blade or a skill saw blade. Anyone have any other ideas?
diemai, thanks again for the inspiring videos.
Posted 28 January 2009 - 03:49 PM
I think it is just metallick glitter which they sell here in the lurebuilding shop called "Samfishing" (Samfishing -> "Tuotteet"-> "Vaapputarvikkeet").
He used blade of steel saw for that and the piece of wood, which he used, had that wire hole already.
Steel saw is the easiest way to saw those wire holes yourself, just use little "rougher" blade.
Posted 28 January 2009 - 06:31 PM
Sorry , haven't used this methods of dipping before , but I am quite sure that no dip nor cleargloss of whatever kind would damage those glitter flakes , they are just very tiny pieces of metal , aren't they:? ?
Obviously the guy is using a metal saw blade , as Jio stated .
I have tried to cut balsa before with an ordinary woodsaw , seemingly the teeth are too large/rough for the soft material , they bite into it , you use more force and as a result the edges of the cut become improper , not clean and woodgrain tears away !
That fine-toothed metal saw blade is much better suited for balsa , it may take some more time , but the cuts are clean .
Nice , that you have joined this thread , being one of those skilled Finnish lurecarvers:) !
greetz:yay: , diemai
Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:51 PM
Many glitters sold in the US are made of plastic with a mylar type coating on them, which was my concern about the glitter technique in the video. If the glitter is metal then you are right, there would be no concerns.
Posted 29 January 2009 - 02:17 AM
Jwags, I think you have answered your own question. In my oppinion, he uses a hacksaw blade (a saw blade for metal). And I think he uses just an ordinary one, not a thin one as you intend to use. Just think: in case he would have used a thin one, would he been able to press the led sheet you see in that slot for the through wire? And would a very thin lead sheet be enough to ballast a balsa lure? But best would be that you try different thickness blades, to see which is best for your needs.
I would be concerned about other things, such as the fragility of such a lure. For instance, I do not know what kind of glue he uses for the wire, but obviously it is not a 2 component epoxy. So what will happen in case of a big strike (and fish)? The more so as the tail section is very thin. Or is this lure designed as a one fish lure?
Anyway, one must try this method to see for himself.
Edited by rofish, 29 January 2009 - 02:23 AM.