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[jigman2]

Hey Ya'll
Is anyone powder coating jig's?
I recently started making weedless jigs and am having problems with the weed guards. I have poured with the weed guard in the mold, and with pin's in and glued the weed guards in and then powder coated the jig's but my weed guards all show signs of heat damage.
Do i need to powder coat them with the pins in and then remove the pin's and glue the weed guards in? And if so how do you keep the paint from cracking when the pin's are removed?
Please help this is a big problem for me!
Jigman2

[reeves]

jigman2,
Pour your jig using the base pin. Remove the pin and sprue and prepare for painting.

Heat the jig.
Insert the pin.
Dip in powder.
Remove the pin (rotate as you remove), this is all done while the powder paint is still soft, so you have to be quick.
Bake to cure.
Once cooled, you can glue in the weedguard.

I use teflon pins rather than metal ones as they are so much easier to install and remove than the metal type and they last forever.
Give this a try and let us know how you do.

[jigman2]

Thanks for the info , where do you get the teflon pins?
Jigman2

[reeves]

You can get them from C.S. Hyde Company.

CS Hyde Company, IL, USA: PTFE Beading (aka PTFE Minature Cord); small diameter from .028" to .150"

Select the size you need, i.e. 1/8" = .125

[davidefc]

I put the jig in the toaster without base hole pin, then put them in before the powder paint to put the pin pitch in the powder and then take it off, so the pin stays cool and does not attack the paint, ready to be used again.
I also have the fluid bed, I have so many different jars, so it suits me and not use it, but I found that simply mixing the powder every 2 / 3 jigs and the result is satisfactory.

Edited by davidefc, 21 June 2010 - 02:29 PM.

[Troul Hawk]

I am interested in the teflon pin idea, this is news to me and would be worth a try, but gosh I don't want to buy 25 feet / $70 worth of the stuff. Anyone willing to clip a section off and let me buy it from ya? maybe enough for a dozen pins or so.

[152nd Street Baits]

Wooden dowels work well and on smaller jigs, a piece of toothpick.

[cadman]

 Troul Hawk, on 23 June 2010 - 04:57 PM, said:

I am interested in the teflon pin idea, this is news to me and would be worth a try, but gosh I don't want to buy 25 feet / $70 worth of the stuff. Anyone willing to clip a section off and let me buy it from ya? maybe enough for a dozen pins or so.

Troul Hawk and others. I have a guy that gets these for me pre-cut to 1" strips x 1/8" (.125) diameter. If you are interested, PM me as I can get them. Once you guys try these you will never go back to metal pins. I even use these for inserts in my lead molds and it works great. No more struggling pulling pins out of jigs. They come out as easy as a hot knife out butter. Below is a pic.

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Edited by cadman, 25 June 2010 - 07:50 PM.

[Terry Anderson]

 cadman, on 25 June 2010 - 07:48 PM, said:

Troul Hawk and others. I have a guy that gets these for me pre-cut to 1" strips x 1/8" (.125) diameter. If you are interested, PM me as I can get them. Once you guys try these you will never go back to metal pins. I even use these for inserts in my lead molds and it works great. No more struggling pulling pins out of jigs. They come out as easy as a hot knife out butter. Below is a pic.

PM sent

[cadman]

 Terry Anderson, on 28 June 2010 - 08:29 AM, said:

PM sent

Replied to PM.

[A.C.T. LURES]

I have been playing with the teflon pins and they work great, still a good idea to get a 1/8" drill bit incase you have a tight fit. You can ream them out by hand, and the weedguards fit great!
I glue mine in with super glue gel, works great and one drop is all it takes
Paul

[Maddoglures]

After pouring 1000`s of jigs each year, mostly with weedguards. This has really been a big problem.

This is some of the problems that have come up.

With pouring weedguards into jig head, the mold gets hot afterv just a few pours.
This really gets the weedguard distorted.

Even baking the jigs with weedguard in, will really distort the weedguard if to much heat is used.

The best results I have had is putting the weedguard into your jighead after baking and curing paint.

This is really a tricky thing to get done without getting to much paint inside the guard hole.
Now this can be solved really easy if you have a dremel, Just ream out the hole then glue weedguard inside.
i always ream out the holes after taken out of oven, the hot powder coat is real soft at this time.

Hope this helps

[cadman]

 Maddoglures, on 07 January 2011 - 05:20 PM, said:

After pouring 1000`s of jigs each year, mostly with weedguards. This has really been a big problem.

This is some of the problems that have come up.

With pouring weedguards into jig head, the mold gets hot afterv just a few pours.
This really gets the weedguard distorted.

Even baking the jigs with weedguard in, will really distort the weedguard if to much heat is used.

The best results I have had is putting the weedguard into your jighead after baking and curing paint.

This is really a tricky thing to get done without getting to much paint inside the guard hole.
Now this can be solved really easy if you have a dremel, Just ream out the hole then glue weedguard inside.
i always ream out the holes after taken out of oven, the hot powder coat is real soft at this time.

Hope this helps

Maddog,
Just put pins in your weedguard holes when you are painting the jig and you will never ever have to drill again. I've been doing this for sevaral years and it just plain works. Also if the hole is slightly tight just take one strand of fiber off the weedguard. It works all the time. Finally it is easier to put in the non fused side in the hole versus the fused. The fused side is bigger at the bottom and it has a tendency to flare the weed fibers when forced in.

Edited by cadman, 07 January 2011 - 06:23 PM.