JimD Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) You have me hooked after two weeks refinishing and making the color of lures that I want instead of what I can buy in Houston. I will never have the time to do the beautiful work that I see here but I would rather be out trying out my new baits. Few questions. I sat down last night and figured out a really nice Florescent Ch color for some baits. I did a white base coat and it seems that the fl colors are fairly transparent but do great over the white base coat. Are most of the colors fairly transparent in the Ct paints. How about adding glitter? I see a lot of posts on using the extra fine glitter but not much on the larger glitter. My local Walmart and Hobby Lobby seem to carry two different sizes of glitter. TOO Large and the micro fine glitter in a glue base. One is too small and the other way too big. Where can you find the fine glitter at a local shop without ordering from a soft plastic company? If I have to use the paint on glitter is there a problem with it sticking after application of the D2 clearcoat or is one type of paint on glitter better than another? Does the bottle squeeze out and paint on stick well? Thanks, Jim Edited March 20, 2009 by JimD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobv Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 My local Hobby Lobby and Micaels both carry fine glitter. You may need to look harder, it's not in the same area as the glue glitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benton B Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Hobby Lobby has fine glitter also. I got some there in 4 packs with 4 different colors in each pack. You can find glitter on sites that sell products for pouring soft plastic baits. C-tex flo colors need several coats to cover completely. Make sure that you heat set each coat of paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throttlejunkie Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Can you shoot fine glitter mixed in paint or clear through an airbrush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 You have me going to try another HL and Walmart. Both of you have great looking baits on you px pages. I fish saltwater a lot and use Spook jrs a lot of the time. Our stores here are limited on the Spooks that they carry. Even with the little that I do I cannot wait to go see how my souped up baits do. I have added Ch and pink bellies, glitter, gills, mouths to baits plus cleaning up and Dc2 ing a lot of my chrome baits that donot last long before being chipped and pealed. On our coast this time of year the ch top and bottom with silver sides, pink t and b with silver sides and bone t and b are good colors along with natural colors. For plastics wade fishing the plumb with ch tail, black magic (black with silver and red glitter w/ ch tail, and pumpkinseed ch tail (brown with black specks and ch tail are top baits with the guides. One of the other good plastics for wade fishing is Avocado - Ch belly with a black top and a little fine glitter in the mix probably 3 parts silver and 1 part red glitter to give a little flash and a red tail on the bait in a rat tail instead of a paddle tail. I want to make a spook jr in the avocado colors. I have the spook jr bait done except for the glitter and the eyes. I have the glow with black eye and the orange with black eye and not sure which is better and I cannot decided on the tail. For my fishing buddy he wanted a red head on his with the regular eyes but on mine I think I want a red hair tail tied with a little flash in it instead of painting the tail end of the bait red. I did put a small red throat on my bait. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Applying glitter to a hard bait leaves two viable options to attain an excellent finish. Airbrush or paint brush? 1)Shooting glitter To get the most bang out of your glitter whether it is micro glitter, fine, or course you are best to shoot your glitter with a carrier such as a thinned clear. When glitter is sprinkled onto a tacky surface the glitter will not lay completly flat leaving voids that will not refect light. 2) Mixing with clear coat The other way is to mix the glitter into your first coat of clear then apply the mix with a paintbrush. Let the first coat w/ clear cure overnight then apply a second coat of clear to smooth out the finish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 I brush on acrylic based glitter after I paint and before I clearcoat the bait. It comes very thick from the bottle so I thin it with water and dab it on. The advantage is control: I can put a lot or a little glitter where I want it, and keep it off areas where I don't. You can also use large glitter that would never shoot through an airbrush. It's very cheap stuff carried by every hobby/craft store and it comes in a wide variety of colors. Most guys lay down a white color basecoat as the first step in painting any crankbait so wood grain or the old colors on a repaint won't show through. I use Polytranspar Superhide White - but any heavily pigmented white will do. If your airbrush tip is big enough to shoot thinned "hobby acrylics", Apple Barrel Flat White works well but leaves a rougher surface because its paint grains are not milled as small as in airbrush paints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbass Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Try a white base then a light yellow, then chart. For glitter, if you work fast-spray on a coat of clear then dust or sprinkle on glitter, then spray another coat of clear to hold the glitter down. With this method glitter size is irrelevant. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 These are all great suggestions. Like Madbass, I now apply a coat of clear where I want the glitter, sprinkle glitter about 2 feet about the bait then coat several more times to seal it good. The problem with this method is control-I can almost get the same degree of glitter on each bait but not always. But for large runs of baits, I will use thinned clear and spray it on with a large gun (used in auto painting). If I have 10 baits on a stick, I can hit all ten in one or two movements and be done. If uniformity is key to you, then spray is probably the best method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throttlejunkie Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Great info guys. Thanks for the tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 The glitter that I use is fine and my local hobby shop , lucky for me, carries a large selection. I like to mix mine in the first coat of clear it goes on pretty even. Stir it in before you coat your bait for a sparkle effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted March 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 I tried glitter placement several different ways. These easiest was the glitter mixed in the adhesive but I did not want that much ultrafine glitter. I tried mixing it in the 2 ton. Is it easier to sprinkle the glitter down on a clear coat of Createx and paint the glitter around if needed with only the 1/64 size glitter OR DO hobby shops carry just the adhesive that comes in the bottle WITHOUT any glitter so you could mix your own? What is the best way to use the 1/64 size glitter? I just want some flash like you see in someof the plastic baits not the amount you get with the ultrafine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seafoam Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 I have not tried this method but Ive seen it done.Take a clear jar and put some glitter in it,apply a thin layer of clear on your bait,suspend your bait from the lid of the jar,screw the top on and shake'....then just apply a second coat of clear and your done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) I could see problems with the shaking, but it gave me an idea. If a small dia tube was inserted through a hole in the lid. You could blow in the jar and obtain a good spread of the glitter, depending on how much you add. May only require the tip of a teaspoon handle to get the desired effect. When done, the unused glitter is contained in the jar, so no mess. It is a bit like the powder painting idea. At the same time, the bait isn't rattling against the sides and glittering up the jar. Do NOT suck! Dave Edited March 24, 2009 by Vodkaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted March 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Still did not get by hobby lobby. I still think the answer for bigger glitter is using the gel that the small glitter comes dispersed in. This glitter did well with the bigger mixed with the gel but I got too much little glitter for what I wanted to do and that was add a little flash similar to the bait that I wanted to copy Which is a plastic rat tail type of bait. With this gel you could mix your own glitter and paint it on the bait where and how you wanted it. I am guessing it is an acrylic type of paste. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seafoam Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Here is a idea for getting fine glitter if you cant find any.Just buy a cheap coffee grinder,mr coffee makes a good one for 10 bucks.Put your glitter in there and give it a whirl ,whips it to a powder like consistency...it works I have done this myself and the glitter is very,very,fine like powder . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted March 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Anyone tried Gel blending medium? You mix it with the paint's for ceramcoat acrylic paints. If this works the you can mix the glitter with a glob of this gel and paint it on to dry. Seems a better way with the larger glitter sizes. Ideas? comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted March 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Scratch this stuff. Painted on like the regular gel w glitter but did not set up. It mixed and spread well butttt not setting up is a problem. Still seems there is some type of thick gel with out glitter out there some where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Another TU member, Nathan Bettencourt, suggested mixing the glitter with Minwax Polyacrylic, and then brushing it on. I do that now, and it works great. It dries clear, takes epoxy fine, and really lets the glitter sparkle and shine. Seafoam, I love the idea of the coffee grinder. Super fine glitter sounds great! Thanks for the tip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwannafish Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 I've spinkled glitter on a couple lures before I remembered an article by Mepps about the color of "silver" under water. After reading the article I doubted that the "silver" glitter would really flash under water so I gave up on the glitter. This is an exerpt from the Mepps article: Sometime while you're retrieving a silver plated Mepps, have a friend retrieve a nickel or chrome plated lure next to it. You'll notice the flash from the silver blade looks almost white. The "flash" from the chrome or nickel blade is a tarnished brown. For what it's worth I sprinkled the glitter on first layer of D2T, heated with a hair dryer so it all laid pretty flat, let it cure and recoated later. It was pretty smooth and in the air it flashed as I expected it to. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted April 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Think that I finally found a way to place glitter where I want it that works for me. I picked up some of the clear paint then brushed it on the painted bait. You can then sprinkle the glitter on or use the brush to move the glitter around. With the dab and paint you can really move the glitter around and add and delete, or place different color of glitter where you want it. Best of all you can gently wash the glitter off and start over it needed which cannot be done using the D2 or clones. After it drys placing the d2 did not seem to be any difference than placing d2 on a bait without glitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergrub6 Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 I recently ordered some ultra fine gold glitter from Janns Net Craft. It is not the soft plastic stuff but is for hard baits and jig heads. Planning on mixing it with clear lacquer and painting that on before the etex top coat for perch and carp pattern baits. I like this idea better than gold paint because it adds accent but doesn't over do it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Try mixing the glitter with Minwas Polyacrylic, and painting that on where you want it. I think the Polyacrylic is a little thicker than the lacquer, and holds the glitter out a little farther from the painted lure face, so you get more of a 3D effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 It might be a good idea to test any glitter you intend to spray through an airbrush before you actually put it in the airbrush to spray it. Some glitters react with solvent-based mediums such as automotive clear and others. The glitters actually melts in the medium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROWINGADUBAY Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Duplicolor makes an automotive clearcoat that has a lot of glitter in it. You canget it at any checker advance auto store .I think its an enamal but not sure a pint is like ten bucks it gives a nice gloss finish. It would look good on lures but I dont like the look on cars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
