Lure Making Tips
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Posted 19 January 2004 - 06:28 PM
I run monthly tutorials on my site. I believe that this wonderful site is a great place for questions asked and answered, but I am doing something with a little different twist.
I have "Lure Making Timeouts" in which I disscuss neat little tricks or answer emailed questions about lure making. I do this as part of a lure making article. If you have any tricks or tips, email them to me for inclusion in my tutorials. I will give you credit (and rightly so) for the submission.
You can see my current article here for examples!
Posted 19 January 2004 - 07:11 PM
Nice feature Chip. What computer program are you using? Is the program just for a general idea? It looks like the bait you are making is different from the program generated one.
Posted 19 January 2004 - 07:50 PM
I use Auto Cad for design and Adobe Photoshop for color. The software photo on the site was done completely with Adobe Photoshop. Mac and I were going back and forth on a color patern he liked at the time. When he said "EUREKA! THATS IT" LOL I decided to post it with the article. I use autocad, because i can keep reproducing lures, make molds or feed measurements into milling machine. I particularly like the 3-D views I can get before I go to carving. I then use those measurements to turn out the prototype.
PS..... sometimes I see a lure I like, buy it, and make a pattern off it. I dont sell these lures. I only make them for friends and myself. (i.e. a buddy of mine wanted me to make him a believer for musky. Thats what I did to make it. Point is... you dont have to be technical.... I just enjoy the electronic gadgets!
Take Care Friend!
Posted 20 January 2004 - 01:30 AM
I know you have said for your wire ties that you wrap the wire on itself and then epoxy it in. Do you wrap the wire around something to get the loop and then wrap the two ends one over the next weaving them like a rope? I have tried this and find it difficult to get an even wind. I am bit worried about strength with this method too as the lures I'm building are for chinooks and they definitely "tug on superman's cape", lol. Cool tutorial as always.
Posted 20 January 2004 - 09:52 AM
I use round needle nose pilers. I then use smooth flat pliers to bend the wire around itself.
For hefty fish, I will go several inches into a large bait and use a tip to ensure I get epoxy all the way into the hole. I then screw the wire in, wiping excess epoxy away. For smaller baits, a wire through is definately the best option.
On wire throughs, I learned by cutting big Rapalas apart (to see whats inside) They do a wire through by cuttin a groove from the bottom all the way from tail to lips. (Rip through with a saw blade) insert the single wire and then fill in void with a heavy plastic wafer. Sand flush and paint.
I have also done this by glueing two sides together (temp), cut out lure, carve, and then take sides apart. I then dremel groove to accept wire and epoxy together with sandwiched/epoxied wire.
Posted 20 January 2004 - 11:12 PM
Nice job on the lures and site. What do you use for a sealer and primer for your wood lures?
Posted 21 January 2004 - 12:07 AM
I use automotive white primer (2 coats) .... seals and gives a white layer coating for upcoming color layers. I then use createx and finish up with two coats of envirotex or devcon
Posted 21 January 2004 - 12:39 PM
Do you ever have any reactions between the createx and auto sealer since the auto sealer is problably oil based and createx is water based? If this works looks like you can save a step (sealer). Thanks Bob P
Posted 21 January 2004 - 12:48 PM
There is no oil - No problems at all. Auto primer is solids and organic solvents. Once the coating flashes and the solvent outgasses, you are only left with the adhering solids. This coating seals the wood well. I have floated lures with only a primer coating with no effect on the wood grain.
This article: http://home.att.net/~carolinachiptwo/ shows me going from primer to createx.
Posted 21 January 2004 - 01:33 PM
Dude, your tutorials ROCK! You make it look so simple. I hope to be just as good as you, someday.
Posted 22 January 2004 - 12:06 PM
I am sure you are already that good! If you havent already let it out.... Do So!
Regards and Thanks Sincerely!
Posted 22 January 2004 - 02:50 PM
Nice job on the tutorial and I like the way you are going about putting them together.. one question.. you said you are making your own hook and eye hardware.. are you threading the wire and then bending it or are you bending it and then threading it..what die size are you using on .062
wire.. I think the largest wire I carry is .051.. the scew in eyes I'm buying is about .070 thousands.. and they aren't machine threads..
so maybe I jumping the gun here and you are doing them some other way than threading them..
Posted 22 January 2004 - 03:43 PM
Yes... Another way....
I make a fisheye loop with the wire and take the tag end and wrap it tightly around the shaft I have created. I keep wrapping using flat bladed pliers until I wrap the wire completely around(many loops), thus making a screw. I then epoxy them into the bait.
I have never had one fail from pan fish to giant musky and salt: jacks, redfish, and bone fish.
I also place them at lease 20 - 30 percent into the lure. By the way... The hole I drill is just large enough to accept the wire.
Posted 22 January 2004 - 04:55 PM
Ok.. I understand what you are doing.. what size shaft works the best..
in my head I was thinking something like 1/8 drill rod.. course your using
.061.. wire that would be real close to 1/16th.. LOL ...by the time you wrap it.. I say you would be close to needing a (.125 hole or 1/
sorry for all the questions.. but I do like the idea of making my own hardware for solid one piece baits..most of my hard baits are Musky baits
and they do need to be heavy duty..
I'm looking foward to the next steps..
keep up the good work
Posted 23 January 2004 - 09:51 AM
Yah.... With the SS .060 wire wrapped, it is a bigger hole. I plant it solidly, with plenty of glue and as deep in the bait as I can.. Try for 2/3rds. I have never had one fail on large pike..... Only caught a few muskie, but they were not giants.
Posted 23 January 2004 - 12:20 PM
What kind of scale are using? How accurate? How much? Where did you buy it? Sorry for all the Q's but I have one that weighs in 1/8 ounce incriments that just leaves too much room for error. I have been using my body shop scale but would like to have one at home.
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Posted 23 January 2004 - 12:32 PM
:idea: I enjoy answering questions! I ask them too! Thats why this is such a great site!
Posted 23 January 2004 - 01:20 PM
Any other scales that you would recommend without the hefty price tag?