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Posted 28 January 2004 - 07:30 PM
That is the best illustration I have ever seen to build a bait. You have given anyone everything that they need. If someone can't build this bait with this information, then they just might as well just throw their tools in the garbage. Plain killer.
Posted 28 January 2004 - 08:44 PM
Great info Blackjack, Fantastic illustration and how-to.
I`m going to make afew of these. Will post the pictures
Posted 28 January 2004 - 08:54 PM
Hey Skeeter, I agree with you 100%!! I have right now 2 Balsa lures I carved hanging with the primer on them and weighted ready for paint. I was psyched about trying Chips idea on the Poplar from earlier posts, so I carved out another 7 lures out of Poplar. 3 sets of 2 are pretty close in size and diamater! Im psyched about how they came out and how close I got at making a duplicate of each size. The seventh one is kind of like Chips 5 inch trout.... but Im gonna make him a deep diver! I got to weight them and Prime them up and paint them. But after reading this post, Im pretty psyched about taking the rest of the Poplar and creating that bait from the plans posted. Im almost ready to throw out the others..... , but I cant do that! I put too much LOVE INTO THEM! For the Computer illiterates, I took the plans given, copied it, opened up the MS Paint program and pasted it into there. I think I had to either make it smaller, or larger cant remember offhand by clicking on Image, go to the stretch/skew and change the numbers. If you have to make it bigger, try 110 % each way... height & width. You must resize each one the same number or it will be askew, UNLESS THATS WHAT YOU WANT! Then print it... if you have to make it smaller... try 90%. Print it out and when its the right size you got your plans! I hope Im not p-oing anyone off or breaking copyright laws on here by doing that, but it is a piece of cake and thats the great joy of computers. Hey we got a LURE MAKING NAPSTER HERE!! Skeeter, If I cant make this lure work I will take your advice and I will SELL my tools! Cody
Posted 28 January 2004 - 09:15 PM
Hey Guys, IMHO, I believe the magic numbers on the stretch & skew for the lure plans AND also the lip design given in MS Paint (ON MY COMPUTER) is 60%!!! That will get you a lure that is about 3 1/2 inches... depending on how much you carve off. That with the lip design gets you pretty darn close UNLESS you want bigger or littler! Hope that helps everyone out AND doesnt cause copyright problems! Cody
Posted 28 January 2004 - 09:48 PM
Is the lip pattern in direct proportion to the bait pattern??
What I am really asking is, would 60% size lip
work on a 60% size bait??
Thanks, great job on all of this,
Posted 28 January 2004 - 10:09 PM
guys the lip is just a hair longer than 1.25" and at its widest point it is just shy of 3/4"
Posted 28 January 2004 - 10:09 PM
Hey Coley, since these are general measurements I gave you from the computer, and I think I kind of made it somewhat easy... lol I would guess by my eye that the lip is a little larger when compared to the picture of the completed lure. Maybe a 10% smaller would get it right on... ????? I dunno? I guess what we REALLY need from Blackjack is the COMPLETE Schematic! Black Jack you can email me at firstname.lastname@example.org I would appreciate it. But even following this plan, you will need to play with it and work on it. It sure makes it a heck of a lot easier and gets you started with a good setup! IMHO! I took the info we had from this post.. which again is awesome and tried to get you in the ball park. At least it works for me, I think I might get an at bat with this without striking out!! You got to use your creative bones to make the bait your way.. or figure the rest out. Thats why this is truly art and a craft. Thanks for listening to my sermon! AMEN! Cody
Posted 28 January 2004 - 10:21 PM
Guys the original plans were done in Microsoft Photodraw(part of the Microsoft Office 2000 software pack). It is a vector based program that is incompatable with almost every other drawing program. If you have this program I can email you the original schematics(the originals are balls on accurate) otherwise I have to send it as a jpeg file (hence the resizing issue)
Posted 28 January 2004 - 10:23 PM
Hey Coley, heres what I did. I copied the lip design to MS Paint, I stretched and skewed it 60% Like we originally said. Then shrunk it another 75%... still too large. One more shrinking to 75% and its real cose to the measurements Black Jack gave us. HOWS THAT FOR YA??? I dont know how large the lure is... but I kind of like the size I got it... but I will probably carve it down to size fer sure! Cant wait to carve tommorrow! Cody
Posted 28 January 2004 - 10:34 PM
OK guys. I used the stretch & skew in MS paint.
I took 32% of the bait pattern and got a pattern
for a bait just over 2 5/8"
I took 22% of the lip pattern and got a lip almost the
size blackjack quoted. I did this by measuring the
pattern after I loaded it into paint and using a calculator
found what % I needed before changing it.
Posted 29 January 2004 - 09:41 AM
THERE YA GO COLEY!!! It just needed some tweaking. I do wish I had the MS Draw Program though! But you got to love the computer age huh?? Should be a piece of cake now. NOW HOPEFULY I CAN COME CLOSE TO CARVING MINE LIKE THE DIAGRAMS!! Cody
Posted 29 January 2004 - 11:16 AM
Looks like I may be making a trip to the garbage can. I understand how the holes are drilled, but not sure of the purpose. I use screw eyes, so thrugh wire is new to me. After the holes are drilled, do you use two peices of wire? One for front and rear as well as a second drop wire for the belly hook? Is the hole for the belly hook larger than the others to accomodate a twisted wire loop? I really would like to keep my tools! Thanks, Joe
Posted 29 January 2004 - 12:37 PM
all you have to do is make a loop in a piece of wire twist the ends into a screw and insert with glue into the drilled holes
Posted 29 January 2004 - 05:05 PM
Thanks Blackjack, I was thinking you were using through wire for the line ties and hook placements. Basically, I can continue using screw eyes for the same end result. Thanks again, Joe
Posted 03 February 2004 - 09:58 PM
Well guys, as promised, I am posting a pic of my dbait replica. I opted to go with a metal lip, screw eyes and weigh it at a 1/4oz. I chose to use a metal lip to give it more vibration (to really work that rattle) and to increase the lure's profile.
Comments/suggestions are always welcomed!
I want to give a special thanks to BlackJack for providing all the info to create this great lure. Also, thanks to Skeeter, Lurehead, and Bassnator and everyone at TU for the wealth of information and the sharing of ideas!!!
Posted 03 February 2004 - 11:40 PM
Very nice lure! The scale pattern in the foil is flawless! Kick butt lure bud.
Posted 04 February 2004 - 12:14 AM
I am in awe!!! If I can steal the Dodge Ram lingo...." SWEET!!" ( that got a Hemi in it??) Cody
Posted 04 February 2004 - 12:43 AM
Excellent work on the lure!!!! I really like the dressed treble. It really adds to the bait. Your scale pattern in the foil and putting the foil on is top notch also.