A Question For BlackJack on the Dee!
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Posted 29 January 2004 - 04:53 PM
Hey Blackjack, again awesome post from before, but we need 1 more piece of the Bait Puzzle...... Do you have a pic or diagram from the top side of the lure?? That would spell it out pretty darn good! Thanks Cody
Posted 29 January 2004 - 07:58 PM
It's a flat bait dude. The top and the bottom are just a 3/8 radius.
Posted 29 January 2004 - 10:11 PM
Hey Coley and Black Jack or any of the seasoned pros, help me out on this one. Im enclosing a photo of my carvings I did recently... not quite done yet. Got to cut the lip slots and prime it. These are all made of the 3/4 inch Poplar. I cut out the lure design on the flat side with the table saw. Then I tape it back together and cut the top side on the table saw. I cut the tail to its slight taper, then round off the front end of the lure. Take the pieces apart and carve and rasp away. I was under the impression that you taper the tail ends. and round off the fronts of the lures? : At least on that bait or others. I dunno... remember Im still anewbie haha and Maybe Im carving my baits wrong. Let me know and tell me what you think. Cody
Posted 30 January 2004 - 03:34 AM
You can do that. The bodies look good. Most flat baits are the same width from nose to tail without tapering. Finish them up. You may have something there.
Posted 30 January 2004 - 08:57 AM
Cody, The flat sided crankbaits I make look just like yours. The difference is I cut the bait on a band saw . If the body of the bait is 1/2" wide I mark the center of the nose and center of the tail, then I carve the bait so that the front width is 3/8' ,the center is 1/2' and the rear 1/4'. After carving, only a small portion of the bait is left with a flat side.This has worked well for me, but I guess it's not a true flat sided bait as Skeeter discribed. Joe
Posted 30 January 2004 - 09:04 AM
Joe thats exactly how I have been doing mine. A flat sided bait sure would be faster for me to do thats fer sure! For some reason I never thought of doing the flat sided baits (ACTUALLY KEEPING THEM FLAT). I dunno why! : I mean I started with a block of Balsa and ended up with an almost flat bait, then I started with FLAT WOOD and still tapered it, it sure seemed easier even though the wood was harder, but sometimes its good to hear that LESS WORK IS GOOD! LOL Im laffing at that one cause you guys helped me out, and Im smacking me in the head for not getting it earlier! Gonna give it a try after I finish these ones! Thanks Cody
Posted 30 January 2004 - 09:25 AM
Cody, If you look in the Gallery you will see 3 baits I posted a few days ago. All three of these baits were made in the way I explained. Joe
Posted 30 January 2004 - 10:43 AM
Your baits look very good. Let me suggest one thing.
Cut the lip slot before doing any sanding, rounding or
tapering. There is very little chance of misalignment
if slot is cut while bait is flat.
Posted 30 January 2004 - 11:14 AM
Coley is exactly right, I used to try to put the lip in afterward which will not work everytime, huge bummer after carving the bait. I too have carved baits that are rounded and tapered but in the end a flat-sided bait will likely catch as many fish anyway, saves a ton of time in construction, and allows you to be much more consistent from one to the next.
Posted 30 January 2004 - 01:34 PM
Coley, On my next batch of baits I will try it your way. The baits I had posted all have screw eyes for line ties and hook hangers. Sometimes its hard to find exact center on the belly, but it should be very easy doing it your way. Thanks, Joe
Posted 30 January 2004 - 05:20 PM
I have a Flat side" to my baits that I use to cut the lip on it so I have been OK. The others I have done it wasnt all that hard.... except the first one I cut. I cut the lip slot too big... I puttied it up and it was great! Since Im kind of new to the carving of the lures I have been more afraid of carving the lure off of its axis. I must say though and not to sound cocky they turned out pretty darn good and Im pleased with them. Now though that you guys pointed me in the right direction OF LEAVING THEM FLATTER.... heck thats even more easy and a piece of cake. I have also been concerned about the PROPER DEPTH of the cut. But again... Im learning and getting the hang of it. So thanks for the help! Cody