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#1 sinyo

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 09:20 PM

hi all
many angler in Indonesia now change their spinning reel to BC reel for casting

but still i dont understand about the advantage using BC rather than spinning reel.
because this is not influence in my strike rate.
can you guys explain it for me what is the advantage of BC reel...

but in my personal perspective I prefer use spinning reel, because I can used it not just for casting but for the other technique too.

thx
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#2 diemai

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 11:41 PM

@ sinyo

I assume , that with BC reels you are refering to baitcasting reels , over here we also call them multiplicator reels(the second term refers rather to round ones like an "ACU Cardinal" , the first term we also use for those low-profile reels) .

Unlike in America , we utilize left-hand wind reels almost exclusively , nowadays there is a wide array of LH casting reels available , which was not the case still about 15 years ago , as only a few BC enthusiasts had to use the American style RH retrieve reels .

In Germany spinning reels have ever been popular as well , the Scandinavian countries were(and certainly still are) more stuck to BC and also closed face reels .

But nowadays , as fishing glider jerkbaits and topwater lures has gained increased popularity over here , also the BC reel gets more and more utilized , as for any jerking and ripping retrieve it is superior to a spinning reel , both in terms of durability and also in terms of causing less backlashes(or bird's nests) , when working baits with a jerking retrieve .

After my experience spinning reels are vulnerable to bird's nests , as they continiously spool slack line whilst a jerky retrieve , sooner or later this would result into multiple coils of line getting torn off the spool on a later cast , .......these would either cause bird's nests or in the worst case these could also wind around a rod ring and snap off your lure .

Spinning reels are more suited for continious retrieves without too much slack line .

Surely BC reels cause backlashes as well , if not set right ,....... it takes some practice and re-setting on every switch of lures ,....... but they are stronger built and you have more feel for a hooked fish , as the line goes straight down to the spool and does not make a 90° detour around a bail roller bearing .

They are also better to cast bigger un-aerodynamic crankbaits , as these shoot out straight and don't foul with leader and line , like they often do with spinning reels .

For casting smaller lures and in windy conditions spinning reels are superior in terms of casting distance and backlashes on a BC reel .

I also like small BC reels for vertical fishing from the boat , they are more handy to operate , one doesn't always have to open a bail to let the lure fall to bottom , just activate freespool and down it goes !
When getting a foot or two shallower or deeper , just subtle operations with handle and free spool would keep your bait in the hot zone , far less complicated as if using a spinning reel for such .

Theoratically you could mount a spinning reel to a casting rod , but not a casting reel to a spinning rod !

This is , because a casting reels sits on top of the rod , thus the line is guided through the rod rings on top of the rod as well , and it requires more rod rings to have the line sit properly in relation to the arched rod .

With spinning gear the line is below the rod , thus it guides far easier in relation to the arched rod , thus requires less rod rings .

Some manufacturers over here do offer both versions of one same rod model for the angler to choose from !

hope this helps a bit , .........greetz , diemai:yay:

#3 sinyo

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 08:52 AM

diemai said:

hope this helps a bit , .........greetz , diemai:yay:
sorry if U out there not familiar with BC term..but in here we call baitcasting reel with BC.
your explanation about bird's nest very helpful, I just start changing from mono to braided line for my spinning reel. if I used it continuously sometimes the "bird's nest" happen(never happen when I still used mono)
, but i don't know why this is can happen before u told me:yay:

from now i must start to saving more money to buy a baitcasting reel n rod...
thx diemai:worship:

ernest

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 10:06 AM

@ sinyo

When you've finally got your baitcasting gear , spool on cheap mono line at first to practise the casting , ...........did this as well with my first one !
Needed to refill the spool one or two times before I was perfect enough casting without backlashes and I did dare to spool on expensive braid .

good luck , diemai:yay:

#5 spoopa

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 08:15 PM

Baitcasters and spinning reels both have specific uses. The baitcaster is better for larger lures because you have more power with a baitcaster and since the larger lures are heavier they are easier to cast. The spinning reels work great because you can cast light lures with ease just as Dieter has explained.

My experince with the baitcasters was very annoying at first. When i first learned how to use one I kept getting "backlashes". It took me a year until i learned how to propertly use a baitcaster. Now that i can use one i dont have to even set the nobs that adjust spool tension. My thumb does all the work:yes:.

When you purchase your first baitcaster I would suggest looking into a six-pin brake system. This is the easiest baitcaster to learn on, it is very user friendly. Then lastly dont hold back on spending money because a cheap reel will only cause you problems.
Goodluck, Jacob

#6 sinyo

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 10:34 AM

@diemai : thx for your advise

@Spoopa : Ok I got your point..because in here I only use small lure i think I can delay too buy some baitcasting reel...until I can find another pond who has bigger fish so I can make and use a bigger lure
once again thx to both of you

ernest

#7 philB

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 12:41 AM

Hi

Diemai made one very significant statement which I 100% endorse, that is the way a baitcaster reel allows you additional control during the cast. I used to get the trace tangling around the bait on a regular basis when using fixed spool reels. The bait with a fixed spol reel was tumbling around in flight out of control and catching either the line or trace, this was all but eliminated when I started using baitcasters. I think it is true to say you will never get the distance with a baitcaster reel that you can attain with a fixed spool but I believe the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages. Yes indeed, control is the keyword here.

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 09:01 AM

Accuracy. Everybody has their own ideas but that is the foundation from which all things get started. I`m talking fresh water. IMHO.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 09:04 PM

In my experience too, BC's are more accurate and that's important when you are fishing a shoreline from a boat. As far as distance, it's debatable which reel will cast farther. IMO, there are too many line and rod dependencies to argue that point. Like most bass fishermen, I use 8 to 20 lb line on BC's and 6-8 lb line on small spinning reels. You can use any size line on most BC's. But on spinning reels, you run into handling problems if you use heavy line on a small reel with a small diameter spool. So if you want 15-20 lb line on a spinning reel, you need a big, heavy 40 size reel.