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#1 diemai

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 01:27 PM

Hi , folks ,

I think , that I have read somewhere , that there is gonna be a section to put up members video's in here .but so far the new outlay of the site is never copleted , so I've thought , that I could post my video in here , maybe .

The quality of that video made this morning is nothing to be proud of , but at least it shows the true importances quite reasonably , I guess , ......myself , .....only visible as a shadow against the morning sun , should not be the object of interest , anyway :lol: :lol: :lol: !

I have taken ordinary pics of this latest bunch of lures as well , but as far as our gallery here on TU is still down , I'm unable post them in there .

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Any comments , questions or opinions welcome :yes: !

greetz , diemai :yay:

#2 Vodkaman

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 02:59 PM

Thankyou for posting the video, I enjoyed it very much.

The lures were top notch as usual, you are truly a master builder.

You would make your life easier with a tripod, this would give you hands free. Does not need to be an expensive one for this job.

Dave

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 07:26 PM

Diemai, great video, I really like the swim of your swimbaits. All your baits have great action to them and I cant wait to see some more videos( hint some of your homemade spoons, I enjoy your pics of those baits)

#4 mark poulson

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 08:21 PM

View Postjamie, on 08 November 2009 - 07:26 PM, said:

Diemai, great video, I really like the swim of your swimbaits. All your baits have great action to them and I cant wait to see some more videos( hint some of your homemade spoons, I enjoy your pics of those baits)

I liked the video, too. Your swimbaits looked great!
I am amazed at the variety of lures you make so well.
And it was fun to see the vintage lures in action.
Keep posting.

Edited by mark poulson, 08 November 2009 - 08:22 PM.


#5 KcDano

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 09:36 AM

Nice video, nice lures and history lesson! Good job!

#6 hazmail

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 12:51 PM

Diemai- great range of lures here and 100% for the video. I know what you mean about doing it yourself, I sometimes get strange looks testing in a storm water dams too. Well done, that 'Whirly Gig' caught my eye. pete

#7 diemai

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 02:58 PM

Thanks a lot for your kind words , guys ,I really do appreciate them a lot !

@ Vodkaman

I've got a camera stand down the workshop(nice place to be on such occassion :huh: :blink: :lol: ) !

Did not take it along , because I am using my bicycle for a stroll around the lake there , I've mounted a 75mm drain pipe sideward to its carrier , which only accomodates my rod and my collapsible landing net , my lure bag I'd strap on top of the carrier , so not much space left for the tripod .

Its much better that way fishing in the city ;) ,.... I'd put the bike into the back of the car and park it somewhere in the vicinity(I know some "secret" spots in the city for vacant and free parking) , otherwise I'd spend half of the day looking for places to park and walk for miles to the water , if I wanna fish the entire lake and its sidearms .

But I guess , that it really might have turned out better utilizing a camera mount , taking it into consideration for next time , ...but the days have turned so short now , not much time at all , if I wanna make a video and still do some casts as well .

@ Jamie

Be sure , on next occassion I'll make a spoon video as well , ........promised :yay: !

@ mark poulson

Had a tough time with some of them , since I had issues with my spray paint , .....after two or three days some finishes got crackled , so I had to strip off all paint again and since I did'nt wanna go through it again , I decided to paint them with model making enamels .

That "Rush Tango" did not quite turn out like the original , since I have made them only after pictures so far .

But recently I have received two original vintage lures(repaints)through a swap with an Australian lure enthusiast , and now I can clearly figure out that the diving bill is supposed to be somewhat wider and a little curved . This would mean , if next time I'd turn down another "Tango" blank , I'd have have to furnish the cone ahead of the body , that makes up for the lip , a bit thicker and at a bigger angle .

I am planning on making some more of this kinda swimbaits , about 10% to 20% larger ,...... guess , that this would still be OK for rigging only ONE treble as shown :huh: ?

This way I would not have to thru-wire the two sections , actually only the line tie , hook eye and the lower hinge eye of the first section do consist of a three-point harness , the other three hinge eyes are epoxied into "blind" holes , as a hooked fish should not put tension on them .

@ KcDano

Yep , .....I find the history of vintage lures quite interesting , though I do not know much about too many models .
But I have made more or less accurate copies of a few models , most likely after pictures , and some have really turned out to become proven catchers for me :D .

@ hazmail

After book informations that "Whirlygig" was designed in Pennsylvania by a certain Mr. Bob(Robert ?) Bates in 1947 , he actually intended to render the proven topwater "Globe" model into a diving lure .

And it certainly worked out , as one can work the "Whirlygig" on top and one to two feet deep alike , just by rod tip manipulation and retrieve speed control .

But still the lure was never commercialized , only homemade by a group of enthusiasts around Mr. Bates and the author of that book , Mr. Charles K. Fox .

I have once had seven pike attacks on this great lure model within approx. 75min in a bigger pond(could land four of them) , it's also well-suited to be worked around dead timber and along or above vegetation in summer .

Anyway , this particular one shown is going to "Down Under" for a swap , really eager to know , whether your "natives" there would respond to them as well !

Thanks again , everybody :worship: , .......greetz , Dieter :yay:

#8 jamie

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 08:14 PM

Watched the video again today and I love the action of the Rush Tango model and you have inspired myself to build this style of bait. I didnt think that this style of bait would have such great action.Without seeing this bait swim I would have never thought of making this style of bait. Thank again for posting your video.

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 10:53 PM

Hey Dieter,

Really enjoyed the video! I liked your banana lures the most, they look like they have quite some action. I also liked your swimbaits, it sure is tough to make jointed lures that small :blink:

Also enjoyed your variety of paint schemes and different lures you had. Great bunch of lures!
Thanks, Jacob

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 01:31 AM

@ spoopa

Thanks a lot , Jacob , .....indeed it is tricky making joints at such small baits , they always get stuck with epoxy , when topcoating , .....I carefully dremeled that excess laquer off with a 1 mm drill bit and small balsa scalpel knives , I have a set of these with different , partly very narrow blades .

This is the reason , why I never dared to furnish baits with more hidden joints , less gap , so to speak !

Doesn't look very pretty this way , but I'm sure , the fish should not bother !

@ jamie

This lure body configuration is about the oldest in angling history for floating and diving lures .

This "Rush Tango" has an elongated rear body , thus runs stable to provide a regular wiggle , ......there are other models from different vintage manufacturers with a shorter rear , rather more "egg"-shaped body(but also with a similar front portion , though may be at different angles), these ones lack lengthwise stability in the water and therefore swim somewhat irregular , meaning , that the wiggle is not as rythmic , they feature a kinda "drunken" wobble .

Made some pictures with my new original "Tango" repaints together with a copy , that I've made after book pictures only , so you can see the differences in the shape of the diving bill portion , that I had already mentioned in my previous post .
Never swum these originals , but I guess due to their wider diving vanes they still perform better and run still more stable than my copies so far .

Maybe , these pics could help a bit !

Thanks and good luck , ....greetz , Dieter :yay:

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#11 diemai

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 07:48 AM

@ jamie

As I know , that it is not that easy to furnish lure copies just after pictures , I have got my lathe turning this morning(wanted to go fishing , but the weather is just too horrible)and made two "Rush Tango" blanks after my new original repaints .

This way I could take over the exact measurements and I've shaped them as accurately as I could .

My little diagrams are in metric millimeter scale , 1 inch makes up for 25,4 millimetres . The sketched lines are referring to the penciled circumference lines on the wood blanks , the measurements stated "dia" refer to the blank diameter at that particular spot .

When mounting eye screws to these lures , make sure to run them EXACTLY crosswise to the wood grain , as this provides the greatest strength , especially for the thin diving vane .

After supper I'm gonna proceed with these , so hopefully I could still mail some more pics about how I furnish the line tie on such kinda lures(guess , that this is also shown in an older thread of mine named "New Banana Lures" or similar).

@ hazmail

Also turned down another "Whirlygig" blank for display , maybe you'd be interested to make one as well ?

There is no accurate measurement neccessary on that one , they can be build between 85 mm and 120 mm , slender or a little fatter , ......with longer fins or shorter ones .

The shorter lures with longer fins swim a bit more lively , when constantly twitched underwater , but they are not as easy to submerge(but it certainly works) as a longer , slender lure with shorter fins ,..... that one goes down easier and also zig-zags a bit better on the surface(glides sideward a fraction further) , I'd say !

This is the pre-turned blank ,..... body ends are rounded after having removed the dowel remainder on either end .

I have drawn reference lines on the body , that virtually divide it into quarters , marked the hole for the belly eye , also made pilot indentions for the holes with an awl on either end .

Next step now would be to separate the two sections and sand the opposing planes smooth , after mark the center holes on these planes as well , as I drill the center holes for the wire shaft from eiter side of each section to meet internally(hopefully :lol: ) , this way I avoid the drill bits possibly wandering off center as they'd exit .

..........to be continued ........greetz , Dieter

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 08:20 AM

Thank you for the info, it would have taken myself several turns to get it right. I may have to ask a few questions down the road.

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 02:44 PM

@ jamie


By now I got done with those "Rush Tango" blanks , took some more pictures .

I pre-cut the diving vane with a saw , the fine shaping of the curved lip plane I did free handed on my 40 grit sanding disc , guess , that this is the hardest part of all , requires a calm hand and good eye balling ! Just sanded it over by hand with higher grit sandpaper and broke the edges .

I don't like to mount screw eyes to such narrow lips , so I rigged this certain wire form line tie , that I always assemble on such lure type , all will be epoxied later . I use my "Dremel" with small drill bits and router bits to furnish the groove and slot .

Anyway , feel free to post or PM if you've got more questions , always welcome !

greetz , Dieter :yay:

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 02:58 PM

@ hazmail

Also finished the "Whirlygig" blank for display .

Shot two close range pics to show the pitch of the fins , virtually one only has to divide the crosswise diameter line into quarters and the lengthwise center line of the front section into half .

So the pitch of the two opposite fin saw cuts results as from connecting one quarter mark next to the center bore with the half of the lengthwise centerline .

Difficult to explain , but I'm sure , by viewing the pics you'd get behind it .

The other two pictures show the pre-assembled lure and the lure taken apart with all of its components .

For any details feel free to call back in , I'd gladly answer all questions !

greetz , Dieter :yay:

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 03:40 PM

View Postdiemai, on 10 November 2009 - 02:44 PM, said:

@ jamie


By now I got done with those "Rush Tango" blanks , took some more pictures .

I pre-cut the diving vane with a saw , the fine shaping of the curved lip plane I did free handed on my 40 grit sanding disc , guess , that this is the hardest part of all , requires a calm hand and good eye balling ! Just sanded it over by hand with higher grit sandpaper and broke the edges .

I don't like to mount screw eyes to such narrow lips , so I rigged this certain wire form line tie , that I always assemble on such lure type , all will be epoxied later . I use my "Dremel" with small drill bits and router bits to furnish the groove and slot .

Anyway , feel free to post or PM if you've got more questions , always welcome !

greetz , Dieter :yay:
Very nice... I like your solution to the line tie. I was worried about the screw eye in such a narrow lip. Im going to turn one down ( or try ) tonight. Also, did I miss this or does this bait have no ballest in the belly or are the hooks enough? Thank you for your fountain of knowledge and sorry for getting off topic.

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 04:50 PM

Great video! I really like those swimbaits. I made one sort of like that a while back that had a very good action but I lost it the first time I took it fishing. Guess I need to make some more...

Ben

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 06:16 PM

@ jamie

I had made bath tub trials with earlier models , just taped on some lead shot to different locations at the belly to try to increase diving performance and/or stabilize running , but only thing it did is to minor the wobble .

No , even these original repaints don't have any ballast weights , they feel rather light in the hand .

If you use light wood like pine or basswood , they might not dive as deep , but on the other hand made of hardwood like maple they might not wobble that much , also it would be harder to work with .

I'd surely prefer the first option :yes: !

I have placed the hooks more towards the tail compared to the originals , as the front hook often fouls with the diving plane with one hook point , it just binds over it , ......even if rigged without a splitring .

But maybe they are intentionally placed that way to put the balance weight more to the front for better diving performance , but I don't really know .

@ Fishwittler

This is too bad losing a lure on it's first trip , probably might put me off for a while as well........(just joking :lol: :lol: ) !

Thanks for your kind words , anyway !

good luck , Dieter :yay:

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 05:03 AM

Hi Diemai, I just watched your video, and I second all the others on your talents. Great looking lures, all of them. I especially like the action of your banana lures and the swimbaits. Very nice swimming action and I love the way they start swimming at a very slow speed. I wouldn't let the exposed hinges bother me if I were you, the fish the fish won't notice them either. Good Job. Looking forward to the next one.
John

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 01:16 AM

@ JBlaze

Thanks , John ,.......in fact I find these kinda hinges the easiest to make , not much space for different ones on this small lures , anyway .

It was only tricky to clean them off topcoat overflow in the end , but a 1 mm "Dremel" drill bit and some narrow bladed balsa knifes did the job .

Only the line tie , the hook eye and the lower hinge eye on the front section are connected in shape of a three-point harness , all the other three hinge eyes are epoxied into "blind" holes , the tail fins are connected with bent close open screw eyes .

These small swimbaits have a 10 gr ball sinker embedded right ahead of their hook hangers , had to hammer that one into a kinda "brick" shape to fit into the narrow wood board(a tropical lighter wood similar to teakwood), cut an elongated pouch on my hobby routing machine to accommodate these weights .

The tail fins are made from 2 mm Lexan sheet .

Thanks again , .......greetz , Dieter :yay:

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 07:52 PM

just wanted to say thanks for the specs on those baits. It made turning the bait alot easier. The baits pretty close to yours but not quite yet, I will try another. How did you trim the lip down on this bait?