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[dramone]

Could you pls help me out?

I’m quit new to softplastic pouring and have a few questions about it. To ship materials from u$ or europe is a cost intensiv issue, due to shipping cost and taxes , so i have to think out of the box.

I heat plastic in the micro

Colors
- Can i use createx airbrush colors (i guess they are somewhat waterbased, which would be a no-go)
- Pigments. Making own colors, pigments mixed to non heated plastic?

Glitter
What about glitter/plastic in the micro? As long as the glitter is heatresistant and not metalic, there should not be a problem!?

I always weare gloves and a “helmet” http://www.wolkdirek...ichtsschutz.jpg

Edited by dramone, 08 March 2010 - 09:22 AM.

[Husky]

dramone, on 08 March 2010 - 09:17 AM, said:

Could you pls help me out?

I’m quit new to softplastic pouring and have a few questions about it. To ship materials from u$ or europe is a cost intensiv issue, due to shipping cost and taxes , so i have to think out of the box.

I heat plastic in the micro

Colors
- Can i use createx airbrush colors (i guess they are somewhat waterbased, which would be a no-go)
- Pigments. Making own colors, pigments mixed to non heated plastic?

Glitter
What about glitter/plastic in the micro? As long as the glitter is heatresistant and not metalic, there should not be a problem!?

I always weare gloves and a “helmet” http://www.wolkdirek...ichtsschutz.jpg

I had the same questions. I was told oil pastel sticks, (a little bit goes fae) available at any art supply store, or regular wax crayons will give you quite a pallet to work from, if you don't have commercial colors. DO NOT use water based colors as the splattering will get all over your nice protective gear.

[152nd Street Baits]

dramone, on 08 March 2010 - 09:17 AM, said:

Could you pls help me out?

I’m quit new to softplastic pouring and have a few questions about it. To ship materials from u$ or europe is a cost intensiv issue, due to shipping cost and taxes , so i have to think out of the box.

I heat plastic in the micro

Colors
- Can i use createx airbrush colors (i guess they are somewhat waterbased, which would be a no-go)
- Pigments. Making own colors, pigments mixed to non heated plastic?

Glitter
What about glitter/plastic in the micro? As long as the glitter is heatresistant and not metalic, there should not be a problem!?

I always weare gloves and a “helmet” http://www.wolkdirek...ichtsschutz.jpg

As far as using pigments other than what is available from the "soft plastics" suppliers you can use:
Oil pastels
crayons
pigment blocks for candle making (available on e-bay)

[dramone]

Thanks guys for your quick answers!!

Oil pastels+crayons etc.

what do you recommend concerning the exact use.
- should i mix the colors directly into the plastic (befor or after heating)
or
- should i make a medium out of the colorant (mix color into non heated plastic to get a colorant medium)

what about "bleeding" of the bait respective color "bleeding" out of the bait?

thanks for your help!

[bojon]

dramone, on 08 March 2010 - 12:36 PM, said:

Thanks guys for your quick answers!!

Oil pastels+crayons etc.

what do you recommend concerning the exact use.
- should i mix the colors directly into the plastic (befor or after heating)
or
- should i make a medium out of the colorant (mix color into non heated plastic to get a colorant medium)

what about "bleeding" of the bait respective color "bleeding" out of the bait?

thanks for your help!

I have used oil pastels for many years when I had no lure dyes.The main problem is that you may come up with a great color,and have it change to a completly different color 24 hours later.I find that the oil pastels can be a bit better in not bleeding when it comes to highly contrasting colors,like white over red.You can drop the oil pastel into the melted plastic and it will disolve almost instantly,giving you the color.I find the colors are very opaque,and go a long way.

[lowbudget fishing]

bojon, on 08 March 2010 - 12:56 PM, said:

I have used oil pastels for many years when I had no lure dyes.The main problem is that you may come up with a great color,and have it change to a completly different color 24 hours later.I find that the oil pastels can be a bit better in not bleeding when it comes to highly contrasting colors,like white over red.You can drop the oil pastel into the melted plastic and it will disolve almost instantly,giving you the color.I find the colors are very opaque,and go a long way.

The main problem is that you may come up with a great color,and have it change to a completly different color 24 hours later.
so after it cools it changes the color a little bit??

[lowbudget fishing]

lowbudget fishing, on 08 March 2010 - 04:20 PM, said:

The main problem is that you may come up with a great color,and have it change to a completly different color 24 hours later.
so after it cools it changes the color a little bit??

could we use this oil paint set from hobby lobby? http://shop.hobbylob...int-set-563510/

[dramone]

thanks guys!

i tried crayons (shreded with a blender to dust). works very well!

the downside is, it's quit difficult to reproduce the same color over and over, but thats not a big deal for me at the moment.

so far, no color change or bleeding after 48h!

Edited by dramone, 10 March 2010 - 09:07 AM.