Need An Airbrush
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 10:50 AM
Good deal? It depends on whether the bottles are the 2 oz or the 4 oz size, how full are the bottles, and whether the paint has ever been frozen. But the main question is whether the colors that he's selling are the colors YOU want on your crankbaits.
Posted 23 March 2010 - 06:29 PM
I like my Iwata Eclipse BS. In the Eclipse Series, and perhaps the Revolution Series, the bottle-feed brushes have .5 nozzles, while the gravity feed models all have .35 nozzles. What this is telling you is that you need a slightly larger nozzle size in a siphon feed to do the same job as a smaller nozzle will do in a gravity feed brush. I spray Createx, straight from the bottle, the pearls and everything else with my .35 nozzle, at various air pressures, and never thin any of it. www.dixieart.com sells the Eclipse BS for $119.95, and the Revolution BR for $72.95, and they are great to deal with.
Posted 23 March 2010 - 07:14 PM
thats a good price on paint as long as they're all full! go for it.
Posted 23 March 2010 - 09:20 PM
Well I found my Dad's paasche airbrush today when I looked low and high and found it in one of our closets at my parents place. I will post pics up later to let y'all give me some opinions on it.
Posted 24 March 2010 - 06:36 PM
Newbi to the Forum but I like what I see. Lots of really great information here.
Anyway, I too have been researching this airbrush thing and have read a lot of good advise postings. I'm not just a newbi to the forum but also a newbi to airbrushing lures. After much thought I have decided to order the GX207 and 2222 compressor. See pics!
I can get them both for $214.40 with shipping. I figure I would use the GX207 to practice a bit before spending a lot of money on a good Iwata (just incase things don't work out). Besides, the gx207 comes with three needles .2mm, .3mm and .5mm and nozzles.
Posted 24 March 2010 - 07:59 PM
Beauty is as beauty does! If the GX207 works well, you're set. I'm less enthusiastic about the compressor. You can get a decent tool compressor at most home centers for $100 or less that will generate 100+ psi and has a 2-3 gallon storage tank so the compressor doesn't need to run all the time. A pressure regulator (often included) and a moisture trap and you're in business for about $150 with more capability than you would have with the compressor you cited. Of course, where you will be painting and how much noise you will be generating can be a consideration. But it's something to think about.
Posted 24 March 2010 - 08:49 PM
No I didn't thankfully
I'll get some pics up in a minute.
Posted 24 March 2010 - 09:03 PM
Here's my Airbrush. I am thinking about getting a small compressor for it, instead of using those air supply cans or my construction compressor. I was thinking about getting one from Grizzly Tool Supply or Harbor Freight.
Posted 24 March 2010 - 09:38 PM
Your spot on! I have a compressor now that I use to pump up tires that has a 2 gal tank from Sears. It is a bit too loud to use in my house but would work. Currently I'm using a spare bed room turned into my little work area. I hope to one day build me a shop in my back yard to do all my hobbies in but that is way down the road right now. Since I'm just getting into painting my own lures and possibly a few fishing rods I was looking to spend a little money now just to see how it all goes. Later on (once I get a shop built) I would look at spending the money to get the really good stuff. Maybe by then I will be ready for the good high dollar tools?
Posted 24 March 2010 - 11:22 PM
I think you are on the right track with the brush and the paint. One thing about the paint is that it will come with colors that you probably would not think of . So by my adding you will be into it for about 190, Not bad. Until you get your brush and use it you will not have anything to compare it to till you get a second one, and a third and so on. I say but it and get started enough talking start painting. Frank
Posted 25 March 2010 - 12:44 PM
Posted 25 March 2010 - 03:07 PM
@ LA Fishin' Let me know how you like that GX207. I may get that one too
Posted 26 March 2010 - 11:35 AM
OK no one has said much about your dads airbrush. This airbrush does not have much control as far as fluid. It is pull the trigger and go. In order to get the results I think you want it will require a brush like the one you are looking at. Your dads air brush will be good for base colors and primers. But for detail you need to control of the needle so you can get the shading you want. Two things that are real differant in the two types of brushes. Your dads mixes the paint outside the brush by suction, the gx mixes internaly. On the gx you can start the air before you get paint,and slowly pull the needle back to get paint. Not possible on your dads. You can control the fluid on your dads with the screw in front. I have seen in the past a guy that used two hands on the brush do fades like you see here but the guy was really experianced. So dont get down on your self if you cant get the results you want from your dads gun, it is real hard to get used to this type of brush.
You know one thing if you are going to get the brush like the gx if you go to ebay and look at the buy it now ones from hong kong sellers you can find one for about 30 bucks shipped. Now you wont know that they are the same but they are. I have same masters from tcp and bought two from ebay and they are the exact same but the name is differant. Once you get them in hand they are not plastic junk but they are not that bad. If you need parts you can get them from tcp but you can get a new one for less than the parts cost plus shipping. Not to confuse you farther just info on same more of the options. Have fun with this. Frank
Posted 26 March 2010 - 10:05 PM
Thanks Man, I think I will get the GX207 eventually since its half the price of the Iwata. I really don't know that Iwata seems really nice too though
Posted 27 March 2010 - 10:56 AM
First off I was told that Single action brushes are a PITA to use for painting details. Once I was explained to on what a single action brush does I think I kinda agree with that. Its not as easy to do a hairline strip or anything with a single action with out adjusting constantly
Ok so here is my final two options:
I am not sure which Clear I wanna use yet too I am getting overwhelmed. I
My main concern is spending a fortune right off the bat....thats all
You guys have been great with dealing with my annoying NOOB questions So I want to Thank You:worship:
Posted 27 March 2010 - 11:17 AM
i would go with the iwata. iwata is known for quality brushes, all throughout their product line. on the other hand, i don't even know who makes the gx207. it may look nice from the pic but that doesn't say anything. my teacher just bought a no-name brush from harbor freight and it looks pretty good but it is absolute junk. granted, he only paid 15 dollars for it, so the gx207 very well could be nicer. i've seen a few people recommend the gx207 in this thread, so there may be some quality there. maybe i'm just biased because i have an iwata revolution, but i KNOW its a good brush and i'll recommend it to any beginner.
clear is up to you. nobody has a perfect clear. a lot of people like epoxies like Devcon, Etex, Flex Coat, while others like moisture cured polyurethanes like Dick Nites. personally i'm trying out a waterborne polyurethane by target coatings. not sure if i like it though. some people use automotive clear coats, and i don't know anything about them except that they are expensive, have a short pot life, and are usually volatile.
once you get all your materials start selling repaints and doing custom paintjobs. it will help offset the startup cost.
Edited by DSV, 27 March 2010 - 11:18 AM.
Posted 27 March 2010 - 11:31 AM
In my opinion I would go with the Iwata not much more money but alot more in quality. Now I know they look good but the money is on the inside. Now on the iwata the needles quality is better the seals are made to last years and the air valve is just plane better. You wont know the differance unless you own both and use both but I do. I use the copy to do things that dont matter much but when it comes to what counts I always go with the unit that wont fail when you really need it. To start with a real quality unit makes the learning curve less. This is just my opinion, the knock offs are good but they do require more maintenance and tlc than the quailty ones. I think it is money well spent on the iwata. Frank
Posted 27 March 2010 - 01:45 PM
Ok getting the REVOLUTION BR for sure now. Gonna do that ebay purchase since it is including a 6' air hose. What fittings do I need that is what I am confused about now. Do I need a male-male fitting then a air filter then a 1/8" quick disconnect to go to my big air compressor?:blinks: