Photo finish lures
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Posted 21 February 2004 - 11:14 PM
Beautiful job Gene...I had a thought..(it doesn't happen often!!)instead of tranfereing it to regular paper,and fighting glue..why not transfere it to decal paper...I've transfered tons of stuff to decal paper...it works slick,and it is so thin,there are no seams to worry about, it forms to any contour and you can easily reposition the decal if need be..Nathan
Posted 22 February 2004 - 03:01 PM
I think these tips are a breakthrough for a lot of people. If I understand correctly, I can go out, find a fish, photograph it with a digital camera, come back, manipulate the picture and stick it on a bait. Matching the hatch just became a problem of the past....now it's just viewing the action of such hatch. Thank you tons for sharing your information; you've saved me a lot of $ and material with trial and error.
An additional question with this post, Cody what type of foil are you running through your printer? If it's not standard aluminum foil, what gauge? I had an earlier post about a thin film my father uses to tint windows that has an adhesive backing...I'm going to gather a couple sheets and run it through my printer unless somebody warns me otherwise. I've also used the website you've mentioned, but I've found some other great baitfish pictures on my state fish commission website along with their pelagic movements and habits. I realize we live in different states but it's a resource that may help some. http://www.fish.state.pa.us/
Make sure you scroll down 3/4 of the way and on the right hand side you'll see a green box that says "pennsylvania fishes"....click that box and you can view what I've been reading for about a year.
Posted 22 February 2004 - 03:46 PM
Hey Soupy, No You dont find a fish and photograph it with a digital camera... as a matter of fact you dont use your camera at all. They mentioned if you own a digital camera you can use the software they provided for the camera to manipulate the picture you get from the internet. You must visit the website that they listed and pick out the fish you want to use for your lure. The webpage offers a lot of variety of fishes to use. Once you find the fish on the website you must copy and save it to a program on your computer.... MS PAINT can work as well but Adobe Photoshop is better. You need to manipulate the image to the size you need... then make a copy of the image you snagged from the net THEN PASTE IT on the same page you had the first photo, THEN Flip it horizontal. That way you have a mirror image for the other side of the lure. trace your lure design onto the wood and cut it and carve it, glue it on and finish it up.
Now yes, I just ran aluminum foil through my printer. I taped the top edge of the aluminum foil that goes into the printer first to a plain sheet of paper. That taped edge was taped so it wont buckle up and damage the inside printer. I also have a button that enables my print cartridge to be able to print on an envelope. Basically that makes the gap inside the printer where the ink cartridge is a little bit larger and easier for it all to go through. ITS A LOT EASIER THAN IT SOUNDS! Hope that helps. Cody
Posted 22 February 2004 - 09:41 PM
HI...I'm a newbie here..been lurking around for a week or so and it's amazing what I have picked up from you guys already....Thanks for all of the info sharing yall do....i wish i would have found this site along time ago...anyway...I thought I would post a few photolures so you can have a few more to look at....BTW the ones yall posted pics of are awesome....
Posted 23 February 2004 - 10:57 AM
Cody, are you using a laser printer for that? I used the tinting material through my printer with no luck. I have an inkjet and it printed the fish pattern just fine....but basically all that happened was there was wet ink on plastic and it wasn't a pretty sight. Maybe there's a way to dry or "freeze" the ink in place that I'm not aware of, such as a photochemical or something. I'm going to change gears and look into decal paper. Not sure what I was thinking with an inkjet and plastic sheet, doesn't work! Went through the printer fine, but wiped off like a bug on a windshield!
As a side question, I like the G-finish done on a couple of the current zara spooks. I would settle for finding such material and airbrushing over it after sealing. Anybody know where to find that stuff? Pretty sure it's just a film like foil that they wrap, at least in some other lures I sacrificed for science.
Posted 23 February 2004 - 11:13 AM
Killer job barefoot! Absolutely killer! All of you guys are doing some outstanding work. Keep it up.
Posted 23 February 2004 - 02:21 PM
I wish I had made those....I'm not that good yet....I have just made my first few hardbaits ever in the last few weeks and they are not the quality of baits that deserve to be shown with the other awesome stuff that you guys do....but thanks to all of you I'm learning......just put them out there for some of the guys to look at and maybe give them some more ideas...this is the only means of sharing info that I can do right now at my level...Actually Tom Mann did those about 8 or 10 years ago.he worked with Kodak on developing those....this is old technology that never really caught on...but some of these guys seem to be reviving it and doing a great job with it.
Posted 23 February 2004 - 09:13 PM
I used a black and white INK JET on the aluminum foil. It came out pretty cool looking! Something I will think about down the road! Unfortunately I cant answer about the other items mentioned in this post like the tinting material. As you mentioned some materials will not print on through the printer. I guess you got to keep trying till you get the right answer. Keep us posted. Cody
Posted 02 March 2004 - 10:23 PM
Outstanding! What an idea! Wont it be hard to paint over the 1st coat of devcon with Createx? Never tried it. Suppose I could paint after the photo and just do 1 coat of devcon. The decal paper idea sounds interesting too. Where do you buy decal paper? Thanks for the great tips. Great lures. Bob P
Posted 02 March 2004 - 11:00 PM
Robert, I dont have any problems with Createx painting over Devcon. Before I paint it, I actually scuff the Devcon with sandpaper. The tops and sides are the main issue points for me where I actually sand down the foil coming over the edges. Sometimes the foil bunches up in a corner and the sanding of it is just like trying to sand out a nick or scratch in the wood. Start with a meduim sandpaper then move to a fine. As far as the decal paper, I havent used that before, just the foil. The decal paper would be a lot harder in my opinion since the paper cant squash down around the edges. Just my opionin. I would like to try the foil with a photo on it soon however! As far as where to get it at... I would try Staples or Office Max. It could and should be around in the labels. I mean really if thats the way you want to go, try a 2 X 4 1/4 label. If you use that, take your exacto blade and make your cuts so it will fit around the edges. Thats the best I can offer till I try it. COdy
Posted 26 August 2004 - 11:46 PM
I tried this and it works really well. I didnt double the clear which i should have. It covers the edges of the paper so that its all continous with no lines. Mine was right on top but the lighter bottom color has lines you can see. Its not commercial so Its ok, but im a perfectionist. I also painted too much on the top and bottom (trying to cover the lines) and my sides caught too much overspray and lost some detail. Now i know what i did wrong and what to do next time. All that said the lure i painted is awesome, thanks for the how-to Its a zara spook in bluegill pattern with house of color rainbow flake of course Maybe i will have a card for my digital camera by the time i get the next one done, probabaly a rat-l-trap in shad or golden shiner.
Posted 24 June 2005 - 11:45 AM
Hello I want to determine how is the decal paper, could you send me some photos? I want to try the technic described here, In my Country "Colombia" its very hard to find the materials maybe I know the decal paper with other name.
Posted 01 July 2005 - 12:38 AM
Ok, I do mine a little different and it saves me time.
First I use Gloss photo paper for the fish picture. After printing, I shoot the picture with Krylon "Workable Fixatif". This will put a clear coat over the photo and protect it from smudges and over spray. (this stuff dries in a couple minutes)
The beauty of this is you don't have to use 2 coats of Devcon or what ever else you use.
1. Print the picture on Glossy Photo Paper
2. Shoot it with the Krylon Fixatif
3. Cut it photo out and match it up with your lure/both sides.
4. I use elmers wood glue. I lightly sand (800grt) the back of the photo paper. Then a drop of elmers on ther lure and spread it with my finger...thin coat is all it takes. Align your photo and begin to burnish from center out. You CAN adjust the photo if ya miss your mark a little. Do both sides the same and make sure all edges are secure/down.
5. Your ready to paint the top and bottom of the lure. Just paint as you normally would but try not to get too much on the photo. This is the beauty of using the photo paper and a clear coat (Fixatif)on top of it. Any and all paint comes right off using a wet paper towel or a q-tip.
6. Add the eye's and you're ready to top coat. 7 out of 10 times one coat of Devcon is all it takes...the other 3 times maybe a lil corner or birds eye. Mostly they all come out perfact.
Photo's below are a couple Photo finishes I do on a regular basis.
Hope this helps somebody like this site has helped me over the past few years.