Any homemade lure making machines?
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Posted 29 March 2008 - 09:08 AM
I am reading this thread with great interest. Unfortunately, my service provider is over subscribed and my system is pitiful, five minutes to load a TU page. Also, I cannot view the video.
I think that I am getting the idea though. The non-return ratchet sounds good, but if the feed finished in between ratchet stops, would this introduce slop in the feed direction.
The play in the bearings sounds huge, OK for playing with food though. The 1/16 'slop' will not double because of the presence of two bearings. The resulting play would depend on the geometry. By locating one bearing close as possible to the business end and the second as far away as possible, the play will be minimised.
I could be way off track not having seen the machine in question. If this is the case, I apologise and you can all have a laugh. Maybe you could e-mail the vid or pic to me.
Posted 29 March 2008 - 11:29 AM
Thank you for sharring this the one I was making was a lot more complex. Yours is so basic compaired to where I was headed and operates with more precision.
I dont think the play is that bad.
Posted 29 March 2008 - 12:54 PM
Honestly, there isn't any play in this one, as-is.
The play we were speaking of was in theory of using lazy susan bearings for uses other than what they were intended to do.
The existing machine uses piano hinges, good call, I browsed alot of hinges & was surprised how much play/slop was in them, there is some in the piano hinges also, but like what Vodkaman said, the farther you spread it out, the less noticeable it is. (the ones on this machine are @ 8" long)
Vodkaman, I totally get what you're saying & I'm blown away by how you understand without actually seeing the video
PS Sorry kelly, thanks for the info on the bearings, those would work for bass sized plugs, but I'm stubborn & dead set on carving a 4x4 with this
That means the ID needs to be around 5.5 - 6+ inches.
Posted 29 March 2008 - 03:00 PM
Red - As you say, keep it simple, that feed problem can be solved with a sliding collar (with another bearing !!!),on the square stock, and a bar hooked up to the carriage for the cutting head. As the head returns to start another run, it drags the timber through the chuck and onto the dead center. As the head starts cutting the collar slides back up the timber, ready to lock on and drag another length in.
This collar would be set up on a cantilever system similar to a 'Hi Lift' jack (without all the switches and pins etc). A more simple use of this cantilever principle (what you need), is the one way locking mechanism in a 'Mastic gun' or sliding 'G' clamps.
Saying all this, I never got this far, but that was what I was going to try and use - centering after it comes through the chuck may be a problem (use guides maybe), especially if the stock timber is not strait .pete
Posted 29 March 2008 - 06:04 PM
this video somewhat demonstrates what I think we're both talking about.
This cnc lathe uses a support bearing to keep everything true, but that where the similarity ends. After watching the machine make it's pass, imagine the bearing locking onto the remaining blank & pulling it into place as the machine resets for the next pass.
Posted 29 March 2008 - 09:58 PM
I love McMaster for those hard to find items, I did see a 6" ID bearing..........
They did have the lazy susan bearings for around $10, but Lowes has em for 3.95
There may be another alternative but you gotta support an 8+ foot blank of wood turning @ 60rpms, otherwise it would look like a jumprope
Posted 30 March 2008 - 04:43 AM
Red- It's all so simple from this end, always is, when you are not doing it!! Hang in there, you are so close.
I went to the movies for the first time in ages, this afternoon, watched all of them - it's amazing what you can find on the web. Great stuff, you had better bring it with you to Clinton, so we can ogle over it. pete
24 DAYS to GO
Posted 30 March 2008 - 08:50 AM
Red - Are you planning on a simple spring loaded set of teeth like would be used as an anti-kickback device on a tablesaw around the bearing to push the wood through to reset the machine? As the machine resets, the teeth would push the wood into the cutter and stabilize the wood.
Fingers to hold the teeth could be welded to the bearing.
Posted 30 March 2008 - 07:44 PM
If you were to tip the saw blade 10 or 20 deg. to the right or left. Do you think there would be more blade cutting the wood at one time creating a slope. Making it not bog down at the tail of the lure. A router has a lot of vibration, hands are numb after running one for a day. I like the blade you are using. The lure should keep its shape?
Posted 30 March 2008 - 08:02 PM
Precisely, seems the simplest, so that's what I'm shooting for.
I've used that technique before to cope wood on a tablesaw. I havn't tried that on the machine, but tilting the blade a few degrees might very well ease the tax on the motor. I'd have to redo the tracer to suit the change, but it's not that hard, it's made from polyethylene.
Posted 30 March 2008 - 09:54 PM
That is amazing!!..I'll be the first in line with money in hand when your done!!!!..Nathan
Posted 31 March 2008 - 03:43 AM
I have to change flights in San Fransisco. One flight from San Fran to K City goes through Dallas - you could truck half "The Machine" over there, and I could get it on the plane as excess baggage, simple. pete
21 Days, I fly out of here
Posted 31 March 2008 - 07:34 AM
I am remembering how TSA forbid nail clippers on state side flights; do you think they'd have a problem with the rotating jaws of death???
Posted 31 March 2008 - 11:11 AM
Does tackle undergroung insure laptops because Bruces post just caused me to spit my Diet Coke all over my key board. Its a miracle I get anything done around this place in any given day.
Posted 31 March 2008 - 03:01 PM
Yeah, forward it to our claims dept....... Bruce is our claims manager
Hey, Bruce should I bring it as "carry-on" luggage?
Posted 31 March 2008 - 03:51 PM
Jerry, from what I'm seeing, as long as you have a padded nylon carry strap and there aren't any cords dragging behind, it should be okay.
The FBI did the background investigation and with the exception of those protest riots in the 60's, you should be able to bring it... BUT, for God's sake, leave the nail clippers home... you're not authorized to carry "concealed weapons" on "domestic air transport" like me.
MTfishingrods, Please, by all means, I'll print some claims forms in the new invisible ink jet ink, fill 3 copies in triplicate on February 30, of any year. Before I can process your claim I will need you to tender the usual $5,000.00 processing fee.
Posted 02 April 2008 - 01:12 PM
I like the simplisity of using the hand-held motor. I bet that it took alot of figuring out to setup the program for the machine. I have seen CnC machines in dog kennels for use in making personalized dog tags for the pets. Wouldn't it be nice for someone to start manufacturing a Cnc machine that is capable of manufacturing different lure bodies and have it available a local tackle shop for anglers to utilize at a unit cost of course.
Posted 02 April 2008 - 08:57 PM
The beauty of the set up is there is no program. Just simple mechanics. The concept is to get away for cnc or programs. It takes a lot of time and experience to write a progam. That is the reason it cost what it cost for aluminum molds (plastic or custom lead).