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[hazmail]

Red- here's a few links on copy lathes, to make you think - you probably will not be able to read it (finnish I think) but there are pics of everything from backyard boffins machines to high tech air operated models. 13 DAYS to GO. pete
Kalastus.com keskustelut

[redg8r]

Great links......

The one about halfway down this page looks oddly familiar:
Kalastus.com keskustelut

I built that one 4-5 years ago, we lost the pic in the server crash.
now she's back home

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[hazmail]

Red - I found these about 12 month ago, I wish I could read Finnish/Sweedish!! The copier under yours, also shows considerable ingenuity, note the bearings, bike wheel centers and space must not have been a problem. pete
12 DAYS to Go

[black_co]

Thinking about your feed issue....
This is a little cross hobby, but on Nitro radio controlled engines, there is a one-way bearing on the crank shaft used for pull starting. These bearings grip the center shaft one way and spin freely the other. With four of these, on rods(possibly spring loaded), around your feed stock it would let the stock feed through but not push back.

Edited by black_co, 11 April 2008 - 06:51 AM.

[kelly]

Im in the proses of changing mine around do you know a cheap source for bike sprockets. I will post a pic when its working. If it works:oooh:.

[hazmail]

Kelly- Here it would be the rubbish tip recyclers (trash recyclers???), not sure how you do it there. I have 'gift vouchers' for these places, there is so much good stuff there. pete


Nearly 9 days TO GO

Edited by hazmail, 12 April 2008 - 08:55 AM.

[Spike-A-Pike]

We seem to have "Salvage Yards", great places for used car parts, old wash machines, just about anything under the sun. The flip of that is the "Dump", "Land Fill", and "Recycling Centers"; the places where it was going to be burned, buried, or picked through and then burned and buried.

I never get tired of a good Salvage Yard, hours of pure fun for the whole family!!

[kelly]

Thank you, I will look for a salvage yard. We have a second hand store here but no bike parts and I need 2 the same. The bikes were $30.00 a peace. Do not want to spend $60.00 on sprockets.

[Tman2]

Somebody posted this in another thread, but having seen this thread, thought it was appropriate.

Copy Carver the woodcarvers copy machine

[A-Mac]

I'm currently working on building one myself. The copy carver is basically the plans to build the redneck version of the wood carver (wood-carver.com). I'm about 90% done with mine. The plans are 20$ to download. All reviews that I have seen were positive. I will say this, this machine costs more than the website says. When its all said and done, I'll be in about $300. Compare this to the wood-carver that does the same thing and your saving $2700! Nope, I didn't add an extra 0 to that on accident. I will say this. If you plan on building a copy carver make sure you have accurate power tools. A GOOD table saw is highly prefered. I didn't have access to a GOOD table saw so I did it all with a GOOD circular saw. Tools also needed include a drill gun (duh), band saw, titanium drill bit set, and the most valuable tool... a large carpenters square. Accuracy is the key to perfection. The machine is as accurate as you make it to be. Unless I don't complete this before I loose my subscription I will post a pic.

[carpholeo]

redg8r said:

Heres a peek at one we've been working on.
This prototype was made simply for proof of concept, it has many flaws & it's quite dangerous, please dont attempt.
Once we're happy with the design, we'll make it available here.
Our prerequisites were that the materials be readily available, affordable & be able to build & use in a small shop.
Feedback welcomed.

8oSMf_1nLqE

Ca'mon hurry up already,I have to have one of these!

[redg8r]

A Mac,
Let us know how it turns out for you.
We played around with the commercial version at Nathan's during the Clinton Meet.
Unless your intention is to carve 2 halves & join them together, you're gonna need a way to index the rotation of the master & blank.

I've followed the copycarver site for many years now, it's a great setup for larger baits, gunstocks, decoys etc, but not sure if they have addressed the 360 indexing issue or not.

carpholeo said:

Ca'mon hurry up already,I have to have one of these!

[A-Mac]

I just got my router bits in the mail. However, I'm quite busy trying to get caught up on some orders with my smaller cranks and haven't got around to messing with the copy carver much. It is together and it looks like it will work. As far as 360 there is a method in the plans but Ed Waliki (designer) says its much faster to do one side at a time and focus on fine detail with a dremel. I'm not quite sure how the 360 thing would work according to the plans. However, the entire machine didn't really make sense until I was actually building it. Design is quite genius.

[Fernet]

Simply brilliant!

Hope you'll be happy soon, cause I want!

[Duque]

Look this.
YouTube - Valmistamani vaappusorvi

I think that you now this vídeo, but it's very good too.
Congratulation RESG8R, this lurecopy is great.
Sorry my english, I'm from Brazil.

[fatfingers]

Red, that is truly impressive and that type of thing is the reason I come to this website. It is just amazing to see what different minds devise and how guys modify the works and tricks of others to make them even better.

That thing is fascinating. I'm sure you thought of this already, but I'll bet you could also apply a sander to the same task. Off the top of my head, I could imagine a sander of the type where a long thing belt is suspended between two driving rollers. That would allow the blank to move the belt somewhat so as to not remove too much material too fast.

Great work.

[HAWGHUNNA]

The concept is brilliant.

Have you finished perfecting this machine,and started marketing it yet?

Do you have an estimated/actual price yet?

[jameso321]

WOW! That was the sickest thing I have ever seen!

I want one.

redg8r said:

Heres a peek at one we've been working on.
This prototype was made simply for proof of concept, it has many flaws & it's quite dangerous, please dont attempt.
Once we're happy with the design, we'll make it available here.
Our prerequisites were that the materials be readily available, affordable & be able to build & use in a small shop.
Feedback welcomed.

8oSMf_1nLqE

[A-Mac]

i've been cramped w/ tryin to graduate from purdue lately (and studyin for GRE) so haven't done much w/ the copy carver. I will say this, IT WORKS! The bluegill as my avatar is what I've been making w/ it. The avatar isn't a copycarver fish; however, it's identical to ones I have made. This is not an easy machine to build though! Unless you have access to EXTREMELY precise tools this machine will not perform perfectly. The hardest thing I have encountered is making my blank (raw form of the bluegill bait) perfectly centered and alligned w/ raw piece of wood. The way it works is that you "carve" your lure using the machine and then flip the blank and the peice of wood over in order to cut the other side. The problem you will find is that if you have any wood block mounting errors the sides of the bait will not be symetrical. The copy carver does NOT cut a clean smooth surface, rough sanding is required. What the copy carver is good for is duplicating your bait. After sanding, your bait is identical to the one you copied. My gill takes about 4 hours to cut/carve/ sand/ by hand. With the copycarver, it takes about 30min to cut/carve and about 10min to sand smooth.
Fun toy though, I have a feeling it has better places elsewhere than fishing lures. Still dangerous too! The router I had mounted first shot a blue flame 2ft into the air and was too hot to touch for over an hour!

[Vodkaman]

I too am working on a duplicator machine, however, it is still on the drawing board. Manufacture soon.

As I see it, making the blank by hand takes about 20 mins. I don't know what you are doing for four hours, must be drinking a lot of coffee. To make a dup m/c worth while, it should cut a blank in about 1 minute. Therefore, cutting the stock and final shaping should bring the final timing up to about 12 pieces per hour.

Please step on my neck if you think these times are unreasonable. Save me building the damn thing. I have invested so much thinking time into this project.

Dave