I can't wait until someone starts selling knockoff clearcoats. We'll probably have members getting banned in those discussions!
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Megabass 110 Knockoffs
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Posted 15 March 2011 - 09:54 AM
Maybe Clearcoat Labs will replace Meth Labs
Posted 15 March 2011 - 08:02 PM
Now that is funny!!!!!
Posted 15 March 2011 - 09:31 PM
Now that you mention that I wonder what our neighbors think when we're walking around with cans of chemicals, wearing respirators and working in our workshops and garages all hours of the day and night.
Posted 16 March 2011 - 02:06 AM
Guys are gonna do what they're gonna do. If I want a Megabass Ito Vision 110, I buy the real thing (and have!). I figure I'm ahead doing that rather than buying 3 KO's that certainly won't perform the same and may not catch fish. That's wasting my fun time - and there can never be enough fun time.
I have a bass boat I paid thousands of dollars for which surely doesn't sip $3.20/gal gasoline, a bunch of high end rods and reels that I fill with fluorocarbon or braid that costs a minimum of $`15 per spool. Am I now gonna cheap out on a $17 jerkbait? No. Can a less affluent guy in a Jon boat who refuses to buy a crankbait that costs more than $5 whip my butt? Yeah, some days. I believe fishing is mostly about finding fish. But good gear and good baits help and most days, I like my chances.
Posted 16 March 2011 - 06:40 AM
Did you guys see that last weekends everstart tournament was won on a megabass knock off? Dave ryan won on baits he paints and sells .Maybe these are better than you guys think.
Posted 18 March 2011 - 01:36 PM
That brings up an interesting point: that bait is marketed as a "Black Market 110" instead of a Megabass 110. Aside from whatever you think about the quality of KOs, do you think how they are marketed makes a difference?
Posted 18 March 2011 - 01:53 PM
I would imagine that the "Black Market 110" was tagged by the writer to avoid any type of negative feedback. I don't think it was marketing but more to keep the peace. It does kind of fit right in with the name.......Tackleunderground! They happen to be an excellent blank and if you you have the right hardware on, the bait will just sit there for as long as you like.
Posted 18 March 2011 - 02:27 PM
I went over to the website where they sell them and that's what they were called on the site.
I guess my question is does private-labeling a knock-off make it less of a knock-off? And more of.. erm.. a new brand
EDITED: Here's the link to the site - http://www.burtonsba...ackle/Daves.htm
Edited by sambennett, 18 March 2011 - 02:29 PM.
Posted 18 March 2011 - 03:58 PM
WOW....$50.00 for a balsa crank bait?
Posted 18 March 2011 - 04:22 PM
Considering how long it takes me to build and paint a wood bait $50 seems like a pretty good deal. If I were selling anything I made and expected to make a profit I'd have to charge about $400 per bait. Hooks and split rings not included.
Posted 18 March 2011 - 07:31 PM
If anyone is paying $20 to $30 for a custom painted black market 110 , they must have some cells missing , one other guy on ebay is asking around $20 for his custom
painted 110 ko's.
The real deal runs $18 to $25.
Edited by MikePaintsBaits, 18 March 2011 - 07:33 PM.
Posted 18 March 2011 - 08:16 PM
This is why I don't sell baits. I could just about do it for $50 a piece, but the $41 shipping fees killed that idea. The customer would have to buy ten, before I would even consider eating the shipping.
Posted 21 March 2011 - 12:09 PM
Tator Hog, I love the pic of your knock off lure..lmfao
Posted 21 March 2011 - 12:11 PM
lmfao.. tooo funny
Posted 21 March 2011 - 12:19 PM
I have hundreds of both KO lures and originals and I prefer to use and catch more on the KO lures. I think it all depends on which KO's you use because just like any brand name lure, some are good and some are bad. If you can find a good KO lure, it can become a preferred lure just like a preferred brand.
Posted 21 March 2011 - 04:48 PM
In your opinion, which KO's out perform the originals?
Posted 22 March 2011 - 06:18 AM
I'm with you 'Rookie', if we are not buying them ($26 ea here) we are copying them, this brings the market back down to the blank price, which is less than a $ here.
Next thing you know you are working for $2 an hour like they are.
Ya know, most Jap baits they are beautifully finished, something Europe, U.S and WE can't seem to match--this is the killer here, we are still back in the 80's when it comes to innovation and lures.
Edited by hazmail, 22 March 2011 - 06:27 AM.
Posted 22 March 2011 - 08:02 AM
If Rick Clunn is right, and fish get conditioned to the hydralic signature of common cranks, then any crank with a different movement in the water should work, as long as it's well made. I know, on our SoCal lakes, fish do get conditioned pretty quickly to new stuff. The scrounger was deadly for a couple of seasons, and then the fish got used to it. I would have thought new generations of fish would be "dumb", and go for the old stuff, but it seems like they learn as a group, and leave the same lures alone that were deadly only a few years ago.
Having said that, cranks and blades still catch them. You just have to pick you spots.
The one thing that may be different is how well the Japanese square bill cranks, and now the Strike King KVD square bills, come through cover. Getting just the right lip size, angle, and buoyancy to help them come over branches without snagging IS rocket science. I am much more aggressive with a plastic square bill than with a balsa square bill. I'm sure a lot of that is due to the "indestructibility" of plastic, but the Lucky Craft BDS 1 is still amazing.
Edited by mark poulson, 22 March 2011 - 08:04 AM.
Posted 22 March 2011 - 08:49 AM
Mark, you provide a good argument for staying away from shop lures, original or KO. With so much new stuff to be discovered, I will never waste my time copying stuff that has already been done. This of course, is easy for me to say, as I am not trying to make a living from lures. Those that do make baits for a living are bound by customer demand.