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Predator Sinking Lipless And Rc 2.5s?
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Posted 08 May 2011 - 05:28 PM
I'm trying to decide if I should get some of Predator's Sinking Lipless (Megabass Vibration KO) and RC 2.5s? How would they compare to your average Strike King, Rapala, etc? Ratings/ 10 anyone?
Posted 08 May 2011 - 05:45 PM
Also the Magic Swimmer clones? Might have to get one of those. And does anything else stand out as a really good producer at a bargain from Predator? Thanks.
Posted 08 May 2011 - 05:51 PM
These are great baits. The Sammy and the Plaster of Paris max and Plaster of Paris max jr. Are equally good baits as well.
Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:37 PM
I also like his Megabass X80 jerkbait KO. I add about a gram of BBs to the weight transfer, and it runs down 2-3'. Very erratic action. Good bait.
Posted 09 May 2011 - 06:42 AM
Hey mark I just ordered some of the x80's does a gram of bb's make them suspend at all? And where on the body do you drill to add them? Thanks
Posted 09 May 2011 - 07:40 AM
The shallow runner he sells ( Mann's replica ) is awesome. I've done a bunch of them and they have all been good. The stumpy he sells runs good as well as his DT -10. I have a few of his RC 2.5's but I haven't tried them yet.
Posted 09 May 2011 - 08:49 AM
I drill a 3/16" hole in the head, just above the gill plates.
Use a sharp Forstner bit, so you don't crack the plastic.
To seal the hole, I put some bondo, not a lot, in the middle of a small piece of masking tape, and put that over the hole, not forcing the tape down too tight. That way, I can fill the hole with the bait still upright, so the ballast balls don't get stuck in the bondo.
Afterwards, I peel off the tape, and sand off the excess bondo.
Once I've got it sanded flush, I put a small drop of crazy glue on the bondo, just enough to cover the bondo, to make it harder, and reinforce the bond to the plastic.
So far this has held up fine.
You can add as much weight as you want, so I'm sure you can make them suspend. Mine suspend sometimes in warmer water.
I put on the hooks and split rings, and add my ballast, and then cover the hole with masking tape to float tank test (a five gallon water bucket) the baits and determine how the bait will sit. I use Createx and urethane, so the paint scheme doesn't weigh enough to change things much.
If you use epoxy, it may make a difference.
Just be sure the BBs are at least as big as the two ballast balls that come with the bait, or they will pass all the way to the tail, and be trapped.
I found that out when I tried to use some small glass beads instead of BBs.
I try to make them float head down, at a 30 degree+- angle, with the top of the tail up out of the water, and use the size of my hooks and spit rings to make them suspend, if needed.
The head down helps the bait to get started down right away on the first jerk, and I think it looks better on the pause. They are so erratic that it probably doesn't matter, but that's just my thing.
Edited by mark poulson, 09 May 2011 - 08:57 AM.
Posted 09 May 2011 - 09:15 AM
I'm going to try one of the Sammys on your recommendation! How fast or slow do the rattlebaits sink?
Posted 09 May 2011 - 09:27 AM
I just noticed on the top of Predator's site there's a notice:
"Coming Soon 130mm Sammy" !!
Posted 11 May 2011 - 05:06 AM
I have been doing some major testing the last few days and am weeding out anything that does not work well, so far I am having trouble with the lipless floaters so I would not recomend those right now.
The 2.5 has a tighter wobble then a rc 2.5
I am having new RC1.5 and RC2.5 molds made.
The sinking rattle trap is a killer lure, you will be very happy with that.
I am not possitive on the sink rate, maybe a 1' a second ? I will have to test that.
I hope the 130mm sammy will be here next week.
Edited by Predator Bass Baits, 11 May 2011 - 05:08 AM.
Posted 11 May 2011 - 12:18 PM
I am one of Jim's larger customers and have purchased and sold hundreds of his baits. First off he is a ROCK SOLID person to deal with, he has the integrity to NOT sell you something not running correctly, has VERY fair prices. His eye selection is exceptional. He also carries split rings and his oval split rings are some of the best I have found. If you are not buying from Jim you are messing up great product great value and a super guy what else do you want. Thanks for the Superior service Jim!!! Tony R
Posted 11 May 2011 - 12:46 PM
X2 I'm just a small guy, not a hundreds of baits buyer, but Jim has given me excellent, personal service. He's #1 in my book.
Edited by mark poulson, 11 May 2011 - 12:46 PM.
Posted 11 May 2011 - 02:14 PM
I have used and will continue to use Jim's baits and I agree that his service is top notch.
What I will mention is that if you wish to buy baits to paint and resale just be prepared to do some sanding and prep on the cheaper ones. THEY ARE CHEAPER FOR A REASON! ? Now when i say cheaper I mean the ones under or around a buck. But with some sanding on the seems mainly and some on the bill they are usually pretty good to go. I have never had one I couldnt tune to run straight. For that to happen there would have to be a major defect with the bill or balast.
I just hope Jim gets the newer ABS Plastic ones that have been popping up like the RC 2.5. The quality on them is very good and they run great. Just please ditch the square bill with balast hole it drives me nuts! lol....sorry just a pet peeve of mine!
Posted 11 May 2011 - 02:24 PM
Yes the lures I am trying to keep them reasonably priced.
If I tested and tuned everyone then they would be more $
Maybe that is why the big name lures perform out of the box and their prices match that ?
I am in works for new molds.
Posted 11 May 2011 - 02:37 PM
I love the pointer 100's and x80 that you sell. Could you get a better round split ring. The round ones seem like they are very low quality and I have straightened a couple by getting snagged up.
Posted 11 May 2011 - 03:40 PM
I'm actually glad to here this. I just ordered some 5mm ones...and I'd rather lose a split ring and hook than a lure, unless they are really weak.
Posted 11 May 2011 - 03:41 PM
Is it true the 2.5 actually runs better with the bill corners filed round?
Posted 11 May 2011 - 03:44 PM
Except for chartreuse eyes. There is a big hole in the market here in general, especially for over 7mm, and I bet I'm not the only one who wants them.
Posted 11 May 2011 - 03:45 PM
The other poppers were a little too light for me, but I got a couple Plaster of Paris maxes. Can't wait to see how they spit.
Posted 11 May 2011 - 03:47 PM
I can get thicker split rings.
I have not done alot of testing yet on the square bill but will.
I rounded the bill and tested the one lure and all was fine, I did have to tune it a tad.
I will clear some tonight and try them tomorrow.