Why Do You Do It?
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Posted 28 May 2011 - 04:56 PM
What do all of you have a passion for making hard baits? Sometimes I wonder myself why I make them, since for most of us, we can get them readily available from our local retail outlet. So what motivates you to make your own hard baits?
For me: the challenge of discovering an aspect of our natural world. Ironically, as timeless as fishing with artificial baits is (I have a fly fishing book dated to the 1400's!!) the nature of hard baits is supremely (God like) multivariate. There are so many factors determining the success of a bait no person could quantify.
What drives you to make lures?
Posted 28 May 2011 - 06:26 PM
It keeps me out of my wife's way
Other than that I like to challenge my self and build the perfect bait (IMHO) The constant formulations of weight vs displacement to get the desired effect or my constant struggle in understanding vorticity and the way they spin and turn on a given point of a bait is just mind boggling. The fun of it all
E=mc2 is cool but C7H5N3O6 is the bomb
Posted 28 May 2011 - 06:50 PM
Yes, and I have rendered my analytic skills near useless in understanding vortex shedding. What is that formula BTW? Polyurethane?
Posted 28 May 2011 - 08:03 PM
Trinitrotoluene (TNT) the worlds fastest fishing lure Good enough to get you a boat load of fish and if not you still get to go to jail
Posted 28 May 2011 - 09:57 PM
I could not say for certain. It has very little to do with fishing or making money. I like building stuff. I am an amateur inventor and like to explore how things work and use that knowledge to build and test new designs. I like designing and building jigs and machines.
Basically, I am addicted.
Sorry about the vortex thing. Vortices mess with your mind.
Posted 28 May 2011 - 10:22 PM
Never used TNT, but from time to time I have done a little "San Juan Shuffle" as fly fisherman call it.
Posted 28 May 2011 - 10:25 PM
I have done some interesting modeling where I am able to relate the frequency and "wavelength" of the vortices as a function of water temperature, cross section diameter, and retrieve velocity. It helped me understand the fluid mechanics but I still have yet to incorporate the findings into my bait design, haha.
Edited by sallystrothers, 28 May 2011 - 10:26 PM.
Posted 28 May 2011 - 10:54 PM
You need to read up on Strouhal number. Here is a link to get you started, but there is a ton of info on the web: http://en.wikipedia....Strouhal_number
In the simple equation, the length is the width of the lip in meters, so a 1" wide lip would be 0.0254 meters. I found that for lipped lures a Strouhal number of around 0.12 was close.
By re-arranging the formula, you can predict what frequency of wobble you will get by changing the lip width, without having to build it.
I have a simple spread sheet that you can have a play with, if you pm me your email, I will send it to you or anyone else interested. I tried to upload it, but TU would not allow.
Posted 29 May 2011 - 05:59 AM
we started years ago. back in the day cranks were expensive and un available in canada. . in short we can build, create special things for our musky needs. i am sure everyone has a secret or pet lure they use.
Posted 29 May 2011 - 10:03 AM
I started building lures when I broke a buddy's lure, and made him a replacement.
The rest, as they say, is history.
P.S. Thanks to Vodkaman, my winds of inspiration are now filled with vortices!
Edited by mark poulson, 29 May 2011 - 10:04 AM.
Posted 29 May 2011 - 01:19 PM
VodkaMan, that is interesting and I wish I could understand it but there is a vortex in my head that just keeps spinning it back out. I always enjoy your technical post. Musky Glenn
Posted 29 May 2011 - 01:21 PM
VodkaMan, that is interesting and I wish I could understand it but there is a vortex in my head that just keeps spinning it back out. I always enjoy your technical post. I only build the lures that I am interested in fishing with. Usually to replace one that has been discontinued. Musky Glenn
Posted 29 May 2011 - 08:20 PM
I like not being constrained by whats available in terms of action, size, finishes. It certainly hasn't saved or made me any $....its cost me thousands I'm sure. When I struggle to get it right it sometimes makes me want to run out and buy someone else work and just go fishing. I'm addicted to the process of creating, testing and refining.....when I stop and think about how much work goes into doing it I almost vomit when I see a good bait that sells for less than $10... I vaguely fantasize that someday my process will get me to a point that I can build 100's of perfectly uniform finished lures in my garage and sell enough to fund my passion. I haven't gotten there yet so it drives me to keep going. Progress keeps me going, people keep me going, the fish keep me going....its a sickness of sorts.
Posted 29 May 2011 - 09:10 PM
Or, in the case of musky fishing, everyone has a secret pet they use as a lure.
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Posted 30 May 2011 - 06:45 AM
I used to make my own paint brushes
Posted 02 June 2011 - 08:58 PM
I make my own to kill time being retired gets boring .
Besides when you catch a fish on something you made its kind of a rush.
Posted 02 June 2011 - 09:02 PM
I grew up near some of the best fly fishing in the country and have enjoyed tying flies for this very reason. I think I was 10 or so when I caught my first fish on a fly I tied myself and I was terribly excited even though it only was a 10" brown trout.
Posted 03 June 2011 - 07:11 AM
I have always enjoyed woodworking. I am more of an artistic woodworker and have always been a fisherman. When I purchased my first lathe, it all kind of started there. As I made lures, message boards like these have been my fuel to build a better bait and everyones ideas help. I mean,lets face it....unless you are challenged in some way; with resources like google and youtube etc....Anyone should be able to do this if they are patient enough and want it bad enough! And like I read earlier in a post...it's a special rush catching fish on your own baits!
Posted 03 June 2011 - 09:21 AM
I started because it was winter and I don't enjoy ice fishing.