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Weedless Topwater Bait
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 07:34 PM
Great video Diemai!! In my short time of making baits, some have worked great and some have not. I still have a lot to learn on the bait making side of things. The ones that don't work right, I made key chains out of them and gave them to friends, they loved them. I never knew that lure building and carving would be so much fun. Hopefully, I will be experienced enough at making baits by next year, that I will join the Secret Sander Exchange.
Posted 21 December 2011 - 08:04 PM
Even the dude's lilly pad is ingenius.
You do amaze me, "Metal Meister".
Posted 21 December 2011 - 08:48 PM
Great video. I seem to learn as much or more from my mistakes. Thanks for sharing yours, so I can learn from them, too.
Your wife has to be the most patient woman in Germany!
Have a wonderful holiday season.
Posted 21 December 2011 - 10:25 PM
Thanks for posting your video Dieter. There is always something to learn from your videos even if it's what not to do on a particular lure.
One question. On the last bait you show, the one that hangs vertically in the water, if you moved the ballast forward just forward enough that it wouldn't hang straight down, wouldn't that make it self righting each time? Just a thought.
Hope you have a wonderful time over the holidays.
Posted 22 December 2011 - 01:52 PM
I think you're right. I know for my poppers and sammies, I never worry about the lure hanging down, because the belly hooks always orient them when I start the retrieve. I do add whatever ballast I need on the belly, between the front and rear hooks, just to help them walk better.
Dieter's popper only has a rear treble, so it doesn't have built-in belly drag that hooks provide.
Edited by mark poulson, 22 December 2011 - 01:53 PM.
Posted 24 December 2011 - 08:49 PM
cool stuff man. i've never fished any of that style before. I'm surprised the hook-up ratio would be less than that of any other soft plastic (frog) body since the hook is more exposed on your lure. However, I can see a fish being able to throw the lure quite easily with the use of the weight of the body.
Heck, you don't know until something slams it! Good luck! Lure looks awesome!
Posted 26 December 2011 - 03:30 PM
Thanks a lot , fellas , ....always glad if I'd be able to provide some input !
Vic , .....I've been making lure propellers with unsymetrical blades before , ........just don't know , why I did not think of it in terms of a paddle wheel either , ........ingenious idea of yours , ......whenever I'd feel like having another go on a paddler I'll get back to it , .....thanks so much for your inspiration !
My wife sometimes wants my reject lures as well to hang them amongst all of her fancy stuff on the balcony , so they still serve a purpose besides of that we have learned from them !
This PVC stuff is just incredible buoyant , .......first tied those two brass scrab pieces onto it and it still could carry them , had to go down the shop and get two more to anchor it finally !
@ mark poulson
Thanks , Mark , ......but in fact my wife's not patient at all , ....but I'm a north German , we are infamous to be stubborn breed !
@ RayburnGuy , @ mark poulson
Ben and Mark , you're pretty much right , I guess , .........I've made such lures before after book pictures , a bit smaller , BUT with a belly hook and without a skirt , ..........this second treble surely helps to turn the lure into the right direction for the cupped plane pointing straight back towards the angler, thus providing the best and most reliable function .
I only did not want a belly hook on this lure , because it surely would have permanently fouled with the skirt .
But a little weight instead would have certainly done the job as well , ........and even if the lure would just cant a tad off it's vertical swimming level , ....who cares ?
Thanks for pointing out , Ben , ........gotta think of it next time .
To be honest , .....I have never hooked a fish on such lures , ....too seldom I'm fishing the padfields . Back one summer day this year I've had three attacks of small , unexperienced pike on a similar lure worked over waterweed , ...but all had missed !
I have fished those plastic frogs before as well , ..had a few strikes of pike , but no hook-ups either .
I believe , that these particular bass lures are not that well-suited for pike , because the fish really has to engulf the lure with it's jaws and squeeze it to get the hookpoints free to protrude sufficiently to find grip for a hookset .
Bass have very large mouth and virtually suck in their prey , maybe even hold on for a longer time , ...pike only rather take a brief but vicious bite , somewhat already protruding hook points would surely be of advantage for this species , I believe .
Apart from that , these plastic mice and frogs won't survive more than max. three pike , I guess , .......they'd simply shred them to pieces .
Thanks again for your interest , friends , .......greetz , Dieter