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Posted 02 October 2011 - 11:08 AM
i've been putting some on my finger (latex glove) and sprinkling it over the bait after my DN stops drippings as much. I normally put a 2nd coat on over this when the DN is ready. However, I've done baits w/ 1 coat where I sprinkled over top and never re-cleared and the sparkle stayed just fine. I like 2 coats on balsa is all.
Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:04 PM
im already looking at ordering either a small touch up brush or a siphone feed eclipse and moving to automotive clear as well for a top coat - after looking at the links i got from ben the "mini flake buster" gun coming out soon from old school flake looks to maybe be the way to go for the small application we use here - i am defitly looking at being a guinnea pig for it when it is finally released - it looks to attach to the front of current airbrushes and be used that way - they have a few videos on youtube adn it looks to be easy and effective for small applications
Posted 02 October 2011 - 06:41 PM
Let us know which direction you decide to go and how it works out.
Posted 02 October 2011 - 06:50 PM
i most definitly will ben - have you or anyone else in your recollection tried any off the duplicolor clear coat available? its a laquor and does not require mixing at all so im not as sure about it but i like some of the prices better on my budget
i do plan to talk to my "paint expert" (coworker) tomorrow sometime about some of things and see what else he knows of available on flake - he doesnt know much on airbushing but he is the only guy in the area who can work on and repair larger commercial spray guns as well as having tons of experience in the commercial paint feild as a painter and sales rep - he is my go to guy on any kind of paint question and would be a really nice guy overall if he wasnt a dang bama fan - lol
Posted 03 October 2011 - 01:51 PM
update - i just got off the phone with the folks at coast airbrush - they are a authorized dealer of the old school flake and i asked them about the mini flake buster gun to see if they had any info on it - at this time they have heard about it and one of their in house/supported artist has used it and highly liked it for small/detail work but they currently have no info on pricing or availablity so i left my email address for them to contact me when they hear on it
Posted 03 October 2011 - 10:00 PM
Seems like I've heard, or read, something about the Duplicolor clear. Can't say I know of anyone, including myself, who is using it though. As for myself, I'm pretty much finished with the "top coat wars". I've tried several different ones and have been most pleased with the auto clear for several different reasons. I won't go so far as to say it's the "best" ( I hate that word because at "best" the word "best" is a relative term....but then daddy always said I never knew what was "best" for me) because what fits into the way I do things may make someone else burst into an oilfield cussin'.
Edited by RayburnGuy, 03 October 2011 - 10:02 PM.
Posted 04 October 2011 - 01:17 AM
I have a great tip for working with the larger flakes, but it isn't what you may want to hear. I mix large flakes into my epoxy finish and then BRUSH it on watching for placement of the flakes to make sure they are arranged the way I like. I only do a few at a time but it doesn't clog tips. lol Musky Glenn
Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:10 AM
I mix larger flake in my waterborne polyurethane, and brush it on, too.
After I add the flake, I still dip two or three times in my top coat.
Edited by mark poulson, 04 October 2011 - 08:11 AM.
Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:50 AM
I've also added flake to epoxy and then brushed it on with good results, but since I've started spraying auto clear I was trying to do away with the epoxy/glitter coat as it only adds an extra step. I'm really sold on the auto clear and don't see myself changing anytime soon so was naturally looking for a way to spray the flake as well. To my way of thinking spraying auto clear over an already epoxied bait is like putting on two pair of underwear. It doesn't really double the protection, but it sure bunches up on ya.
Posted 04 October 2011 - 05:52 PM
I have a Flakebuster dry spray gun, that I've used on several different projects, none of which were lures.....I will say that I liked for some projects and not others.....Dry spraying flake is a great idea and works ok on some level, but what I found was, I end up with alot of flake on the floor and everywhere else for that matter.....Yes, you can try to recover the flake by sweeping or catching the extra flake on a substrate of some sort, but to me it was more hassle then it was worth, so now I'm real picky on which jobs I might use it on, but for the most part is just sits on the bench. If I were doing alot of lures at a time and had some sort of self contained booth that would catch the extra flake for reuse later without causing a big clean up then I'd say it'd be worth looking into....otherwise keep doing what your doing now and save your money for another airbrush or touch-up gun or more paint....something you'll actually use....lol
Posted 04 October 2011 - 10:03 PM
perhaps mixing the flake with something like createx clear top coat first would work better? I've been thinking about trying this and brushing it on.... OR doing as you are saying and shoot it through a cheaper gun. since it's sparkle, i'm not really trying to do any details with it. Plus, this should help make the final clear coat smoother too since the flake will be underneath instead of within... just thinkin. I figure it would shoot better with the createx clear than with a urethane, and hopefully be easier to clean too.