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Paint Delaminated Off Lure
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Posted 22 December 2011 - 08:32 PM
I made some musky lures for my cousin. I shoot water based paints and clear with old Dick Nites. It seems that a fish breached the clear and the paint came off the entire lure. I dip my lures in wood hardener, put a white base coat on and go. My question is is there anything I can do to my process to keep this from happening or at least minimize this? I don't have a paint booth so going to laquer is pretty much out. Thanks for any suggestions
Posted 22 December 2011 - 11:20 PM
Exactly where did the pealing occur. Did the white stay on the lure or peal? Did the paint peal off the white or did the clear peal off the paint? Musky Glenn
Posted 23 December 2011 - 08:51 AM
Switching to PVC as a building material is a sure cure.
Posted 23 December 2011 - 03:09 PM
I am not a pro like some of the other guys here but I had a similar incident and found that I had some oil or something that caused my failure. I cleaned the wood with steel wool and DNA (extreme for sure)
I also heat set all my paints now regardless of type and make. I use a hair dryer at a high temp. So far so good.
It sounds like the paint did not bond and the heat treatment will solve some of those issues
Posted 24 December 2011 - 12:50 PM
Failures like that can be hard to diagnose but my guess is that some part of your finish absorbed water and pushed the finish off the bait. Perhaps the DN moisture cured urethane did not soak through the other finish coats down to the undercoat as it usually does, leaving an element of the underlying finish vulnerable to water absorption. Most of us use some kind of a "Devil's Brew" of finishes so it's impossible to predict which combinations of coatings will work until we try them. One reason a thick epoxy topcoat is popular on musky baits is that prevents teeth from ever penetrating to the underlying finish layers. If water never gets below the topcoat, the finish will never delaminate.
Posted 24 December 2011 - 12:57 PM
I was thinking about trying etex but I sure love that DN
Posted 28 December 2011 - 07:24 AM
Bester what wood type?
which primer?. muskys and using musky baits will always be poked from hard teeth and joint wear from trolling speeds.. thees several variables that lead to paint peel. oh ya. everyone does run into this if there building musky lures.
regionally also, temperaturs of water being fished also can create issues.
Posted 29 December 2011 - 09:07 AM
Woodie- The wood is Mahagony. The primer is a thinned down rustoleum oil based. Any suggestions?
Edited by Bester, 29 December 2011 - 09:08 AM.
Posted 29 December 2011 - 09:33 AM
Bester, do you scuff the wood hardner? seems if its peeling to wood the bonding issue is
b- primer not bonding.. if your worried have you explored zinsser seal prime. it has no bad smell issues. . also dn clear urethanes may be soft on clear coats?
Posted 29 December 2011 - 10:39 AM
No I have never tried that primer. I will look around for it. Is it oil based?