Edited by littleriver, 10 January 2012 - 04:35 AM.
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What If I Love Your Lure Pattern?
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:26 AM
You really should at least pay the poor soul a compliment. Around here, we have long standing tradition of telling someone how much we like their stuff just before we rob'm blind. It is the least one could do. And besides, he will know his work is in the hands of someone who really appreciates it.
Edited by littleriver, 10 January 2012 - 04:35 AM.
Posted 10 January 2012 - 06:22 AM
its common practice. thru the years we do charterboat custom colors. we have the agreement not to go public for 2 seasons, to protect their secrets.on another subject we have been contacted by company lawyers on packaging card infringments.
each country has trademarks, and copryrights.folks ask why we dont get peed off on copied patterns we do. well hell somewhere they were done years back.
its impossible for smaller companies to protect images and styles. you,ll go broke defending.
Posted 10 January 2012 - 12:03 PM
haha... oh lordy.
Posted 10 January 2012 - 01:14 PM
nova, using the name: Ethical? Of course not. Illegal? Only if you trademarked the name.
There's a big difference between ethical versus legal. In the lure industry, the legal side is all that counts and competitors quickly copy anything they think will turn a buck for them. And on the legal side, all that really counts is what you are prepared to defend through legal action. You can trademark, copyright, or patent anything you want but unless you are willing (prepared to spend big bucks for legal representation) and able (got the big bucks), your position isn't worth spit... and the competition knows it. Recent case in point: the Alabama Rig. The guys who "invented" it (they are just little umbrella rigs, which have been around for decades) sold them as fast as their garage operation could turn them out. Then they got smarter and sold the rights to the Mann's bait company. This did not hamper every other medium to large size bait company from coming out with a version of the Alabama Rig within a couple of months.
I'm gonna assume that's not really what we're talking about here on TU. We're talking about someone's publically posted art work inspiring you as a hobby builder to try something similar. It's nice to give or receive credit where it's due, but I wouldn't feel obligated to ask permission beforehand. For me, it's not really an issue - If I tried to copy the TU Masters, I'd just embarras myself.
Posted 10 January 2012 - 03:51 PM
I am not speaking about legalities; I'm speaking about being a decent person.
My bait was not copied at all;( the bait is too hard to copy) it was the name of the bait that was used.
I don't believe that it was done on purpose; I'm pretty sure that the person didn't realize they had done it; but once it was pointed out nothing was done in the way of a name change.
Edited by nova, 10 January 2012 - 03:53 PM.
Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:56 PM
If you're right, and the name copying was unintentional, they should have changed the name once notified.
Posted 10 January 2012 - 10:14 PM
I love this message board. Some message boards are full of people waiting to ambush anyone who's work resembles anything that looks low on the food chain and accuse them of copying.
Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:05 AM
if someone copyed my bait i would hope that it could be improved on by someone else so i could recopy it and get better at making the bait then the first time around.
and if i have an idea and post it on here to toss around looking at what other people have to say helps everyone who reads the post and that is what T.U. is all about,
getting new ideas helps make a better bait that might catch us a few more fish on something we made becouse all the input we got from posting in the first place,if a newbee
ask for coments about his baits i'll let him know what i think of the bait both good and bad becouse only then will he learn to look at his baits from a differnt side
Posted 11 January 2012 - 09:35 AM
Trust me on this one Mark. There was one email conversation about it and then no more answers to my emails.
Just to make sure; my bait was NOT copied; only the name.
Sorry folks; I didn't mean to hijack this thread.
Edited by nova, 11 January 2012 - 09:40 AM.
Posted 11 January 2012 - 10:33 AM
yes,what Bob said.The way i look at it even if you get an idea from someones pattern,it will still be a little different somehow in the finished painted bait.
Posted 11 January 2012 - 06:12 PM
You mean if i copy gunnies bait mine won't look that good????i hate when that happens...
Posted 12 January 2012 - 01:46 AM
A few years back I bought a couple baits from 6th Sense. I painted a few up resembling his primary shad pattern that everyone and their dog copied. He sent me a couple nasty messages and threatened he'd sue me. I told him to pound sand & asked if he had permission to use those photos in his ads(most of them are copyrighted if ya didn't know). Anyway, I said to myself I would never get upset and act like a 2 year old if someone ever copied me. So knock yourself out....
Posted 12 January 2012 - 03:56 AM
Copycats have been around as along as lures .................The collectors will be the ones who sort out who did what first and the best. Only the best will stand the test of time....
Posted 12 January 2012 - 07:06 AM
LOL............ and now he should be buying yours to copy!
Posted 12 January 2012 - 08:21 AM
Rookie, you really don't expect us to believe you came up with this pattern all by yourself. That's either a Dali or Picasso if I ever saw one.....Beautiful COPY man!
Posted 12 January 2012 - 11:18 AM
Man I cant barely copy my own patterns much less someone elses. At the end of the day though it is the action of the bait that sells the fish not the paint job.
Posted 12 January 2012 - 12:07 PM
Every bait I do comes out looking something like this.