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Posted 17 January 2012 - 05:20 PM
BASS outlaws Alabama rig and any other multiple lure device, such as Frontrunners, double fluke rigs and etc.
Posted 17 January 2012 - 06:50 PM
Thats funny! In the salt, the tourney people usually dont care if you use an umbrella rig.
Posted 17 January 2012 - 07:51 PM
It is funny to ban any rig in any organization. Lately, guys that aren't known for doing well in tournaments around here, start doing well, even winning a few. And the normal guys who usually do well don't like it, and start complaining. Next thing you know it's banned. Wonder if KVD was worried about this thing? I just don't see the A-rig being any worse than those Hydrowaves? I mean, flip a switch, and instantly those bass get horny for lures. Which is worse??? ELITES held too a higher standard my a$$.
Edited by Gentle, 17 January 2012 - 07:53 PM.
Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:16 PM
The idea of BASS Elite anglers wanting to be "held to a higher standard" is a joke, I agree. They just want to damp competition down and keep the status quo. It's interesting that the Alabama rig has forced them to also outlaw double fluke rigs, forerunners, and dropshots using a jig as the weight - all of which have been used for many years. Otherwise, they couldn't have logically banned the A rig. Also outlawed is using a shallow draft aluminum boat to access areas unavailable to competitors driving 21' fiberglass rigs. Not being a tournament angler, I don't really care what foolishness BASS gets up to.
Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:58 PM
I don't tournament fish so it doen't matter to me. BASS deals with a lot of $$$$ in the Elite series. They exercised a golden rule ( He who has the gold rules). At least they discussed and got agreement with some of the anglers. So they set new rules. What ever the reason they are now the rules that all competitors know and will follow if they want the $$$. Kind of like some of the race car circuits requiring choke plates on engines to limit horsepower.
Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:36 AM
Here is the real deal. Most of the bait companies that sponsor bass probably dont make a version of the lure. So in turn they are losing their ass right now. So you tell your sponsored anglers that are on the team that we are going to vote against this thing and walah no alabama rigs. It pisses me off to no end. Or it could be like around here and guys that cant fish the thing yet are getting their ass smoked by the ones that can so we vote against it. I guess they need to ban side imaging, hydrowave, lure scent, low profile reels, and anything not carved from a whales tooth. Track the money and find the problem. Someones a little butthurt about losing money. If they ban them in the local tournaments im going to start bringing home all the fish I catch. So I guess lure innovation is out the window. If you make something revolutionary to fishing bass bans it. I am outlawing them. I will not watch them or buy their damn magazine anymore. Im so sick of premadonnas. Wow ive been waiting all afternoon to vent. Boy do I feel better.
Posted 18 January 2012 - 03:37 AM
He said: Wow ive been waiting all afternoon to vent. Boy do I feel better.
Ha Ha So do I!
Posted 18 January 2012 - 07:19 AM
The real question I have about the A rig is not rather the pros should be allowed to use it, but should anyone be able to use it? In My opinion this new rig is going to have serious reprecussions when it comes to the big brood fish in every lake it's fished in. Does it work? Absolutely, but at what cost? If this things fished by the average angler starts leveling the playing field to where anyone can consistantly catch bigger fish and more fish, what kind of impact will it have on the brood fish? I'm not talking about the huge lunkers in the pond, but the brood fish.....those between 12"- 15" which is what I've always read and heard is the prime breeding size for female lgbass. If you start taking out more fish you will have less fish overall for everyone.
I have real concerns that this may actually harm any lake, stream, or pond it's fished in for this very reason. More fishing pressure = less fish. I'm afraid this is what will happen over the long haul with the a-rig.
Just my opinion but I think it's something we all should be thinking about.....
Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:20 AM
I believe your concerns are valid ones. This rig not only caches fish but it catches big ones. It is a big fish bait. Will the fish adapt to this new rig before we lose those big breeders is anyones guess. Will this be the first step toward outlawing the rig nationwide? Time will tell.
Posted 18 January 2012 - 11:29 AM
To me, it's kind of like flukes on performance enhancing drugs.
Do they work? Yes.
Do they "violate" the spirit of competition on a level playing field? Yes, on a short term basis, just like any new lure or technique, but the fish will eventually learn. How many of us have launched at a tourney with the confidence of having a new, "secret" bait in our boat?
If the anglers on that trail were involved in the decision, that probably says it all. Everyone there wants a chance to compete on his or her own merits.
Operating within a one rod, one line, one bait framework is what they want.
The cream will still rise to the top.
Posted 18 January 2012 - 11:37 AM
Striper guides around have been using umbrella rigs on my home lake for decades, and unfortunately for the bass anglers here they haven't all been caught out! I can't see it being any different for bass, it's not gonna catch every fish in the lake.
Posted 18 January 2012 - 11:45 AM
Same here in SoCal.
Posted 18 January 2012 - 06:48 PM
how long before peta get ahold of it will it be outlawed all together??
Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:38 PM
If the A-rig really hauls in fish like the claims and desimates the bass population, then likely the state game and fish agencies will really fix the problem - like banning the lure or restricting the number of lures like some states already do. May be even limit the numbers that can be taken. Or how about only bass fish on Wednesdays? Then it won't matter what BASS or any tournament org decides. Don't think the bait will do that cause it will likely only work in certain situations. Has anybody tried to throw them into cover like tree tops, hydrilla/moss beds. Then to after all the banjo minnow is suppose to guarantee catches and the only lure you need. Great topic for discussion and BS if nothing else.
Posted 19 January 2012 - 01:08 AM
Seriously. Did you really mean this. Holy shit. I didnt think liberals fished. I think we should be thinking about how they are fish. Not Navajo Indians. We can restock them. We do restock them. I make these freakin things, and ill tell you unless you know what to throw on one, and how to locate fish you are spinning your wheels. Its just like any other new bait. Yeah it might catch five once in your life. A crankbait might catch two at once. I guess we should ban yo yos and trotlines too. I wish there were MEN left on this planet with some balls, and some brains, with a good moral sense of direction. Seems like all we have anymore are a bunch of sissies. If you cant figure something out, try harder. If something breaks, fix it. When did we start being so gutless about everything?
Posted 19 January 2012 - 02:40 AM
The last time i looked we were in the United States of America....And Knifemaker has a God givin right to have his on opinion about anything he chooses....Just because he doesn't feel the same way you do, doesn't give you the right to talk to him that way. After all he is a human being and must love this sport as i'm sure we all do....His opinion was voiced about the A-rig....not you personally.......
Posted 19 January 2012 - 07:21 AM
I agree. Calling him out is uncalled for.
Clint, I don't oppose banning the rig. I just voted to make it legal for our Club.
But everyone needs the same chance to voice their opinion, without worrying about being attacked personally. Otherwise, we don't life in America.
I'm pretty sure you came across a lot harsher than you intended, but it does read as a personal attack.
Tolerance is one of the basic concepts that this country was founded on. Our forefathers came here to find tolerance of their religious differences, which was denied in Europe.
"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"
Many have died defending that freedom.
Let's not lose it here at home by being intolerant of each other.